Matusz to work out with Brady

[El Gordo]

Yeah, probably why Buck has had him at every managerial position and actively recruited him. It's Mark Connor. If you're going to rip the guy at least spell his name right.

Instead of worrying about my spelling, why not look into his history with Texas, Einstein.

[allstar1579]

Instead of worrying about my spelling, why not look into his history with Texas, Einstein.

If that was true though, as soon as Connor left, Brian would have gone back to his old mechanics and the season would have improved. Because it went on all year, there's something else to the story.

[CA-ORIOLE]

He's young, he needs to improve on what to say to the media

I think that's a good takeaway for him.

Whatever, it's all minor in the grand scheme, but I know he's a fighter, he LOVES the game and he's going to do whatever it takes to fix it.

I agree.

Every pitcher we had regressed from Kranitz to Adair, but because he's "Buck's guy" he gets to stay. Adair = Buck's Stockstill. Sorry...little rant

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I was dissappointed we let go of Kranitz as well. If you remember though a lot of people contributed the pitching success to Buck taking over in 2010. Nonsense of course. I've yet to see anybody provide me anything concrete what Connor/Adair have done to "F" up our pitching staff. We improved the latter part of last year imo. I like what Adair did with Tommy Hunter and I just see no reason why we need to break up the continuity of the pitching coach again.

I dont know. Maybe I can be convinced. I just need something. It was the same stuff with Crowley. I'm just tired of blaming the coaching staff. If we want to blame Connor fine. I'm just not sure where Adair has gotten a fair shake here or what's so horrible about him.

[CA-ORIOLE]

Instead of worrying about my spelling, why not look into his history with Texas, Einstein.

Why don't you tell me. Sorry I couldn't find the Connor F's up all the young pitchers article. While you're at it, tell my why Buck has had this guy for all four of his managerial stops and actively recruited him for this one. Apparently Buck's an idiot I guess.

[El Gordo]

Connor tries to alter Matusz's mechanics which lead to his njury. They brought Matusz back before he had fully recoverd from his injury. They blamed it on Matusz, to CTA's. Adair is a Connor clone and Buck sycophant.

[CA-ORIOLE]

Sounds to me that Connor had some of the same issues Mazzone did. Minor League Pitchers weren't prepared to pitch in the majors and they weren't used to dealing with that in their other organizations. Maybe Mazzone got a rawer deal as he had guys who were rushed up quicker than what Connor had. We know our minor league pitchers have a pretty poor track record. Maybe we should consider this and the genius AAA pitching coach isn't all he's cracked up to be. Maybe guys like Connor and Mazzone knew what they were talking about and the issue is more about development than the ML pitching coach.

[weams]

Connor tries to alter Matusz's mechanics which lead to his njury. They brought Matusz back before he had fully recoverd from his injury. They blamed it on Matusz, to CTA's. Adair is a Connor clone and Buck sycophant.

His injury occured when he was twisting away from a line drive that hit him. He tore an intercostal. And was probably rushed back. I did not think he pitched well in spring traing before the injury.

[CA-ORIOLE]

It's not irrational Matusz hate.

I was kidding. Sarcasm thing.

[Frobby]

I went back and re-read the entire thread and the only thing I found "off-putting" was yours and to a lesser extent Frobby's post. Be specific and call out who you think needs it and be more precise. Otherwise you're basically spouting nonsense.

I don't feel the need to "call out" other posters unless they are way, way out of line. Way too much time is spent on this board in petty disputes that escalate into personal attacks, and I have never cared to participate in that.

In general, I am a lot slower than others to start impugning a player's work ethic, character, etc. I just don't think that judging people by a few select snippets in the media is fair.

As to Matusz specifically, he seems to be working hard this offseason and determined to overcome his struggles of 2011. That's all I care about.

[CA-ORIOLE]

I don't feel the need to "call out" other posters unless they are way, way out of line. Way too much time is spent on this board in petty disputes that escalate into personal attacks, and I have never cared to participate in that.

In general, I am a lot slower than others to start impugning a player's work ethic, character, etc. I just don't think that judging people by a few select snippets in the media is fair.

As to Matusz specifically, he seems to be working hard this offseason and determined to overcome his struggles of 2011. That's all I care about.

That's fine. Maybe "call out" wasn't the best terminology, it was more about adressing specific point with specific posters that you disagree with on this particular issue (or any issue for that matter). You did that to some extent, but I'm not sure how throwing up terms like "character assassination" or other generalizations about the board have to do with this specific issue or how it advances any particular argument. I could throw up a similar argument that you are "blind to the facts" etc. If anything this is the type of stuff that leads to the disputes/personal attacks you dislike.

There are facts here. I understand we all have different interpretations of them.

Like you, I hope Matusz rebounds and learns from his experience.

[Lucky Jim]

I went back and re-read the entire thread and the only thing I found "off-putting" was yours and to a lesser extent Frobby's post. Be specific and call out who you think needs it and be more precise. Otherwise you're basically spouting nonsense.

I was talking about a general trend. If I see an individual post that I think goes too far, I'll say something, I guess. Not sure why you care. I didn't have any problem with anything in particular that you said until you thrust yourself into the middle of it.

I pretty rarely "spout nonsense." You pretty quickly get your dander up. To each their own.

[CA-ORIOLE]

I was talking about a general trend. If I see an individual post that I think goes too far, I'll say something, I guess. Not sure why you care. I didn't have any problem with anything in particular that you said until you thrust yourself into the middle of it.

I pretty rarely "spout nonsense." You pretty quickly get your dander up. To each their own.

You presented a pretty clear logical fallacy (nonsense). Years of expensive law school and some self reflection should make that evident. Maybe I thrust my opinion on here because it's a message board. When you voice an opinion, I can actually counter it. I believe the board technology allows you to ignore my posts. Maybe you should take advantage of it.

[Frobby]

That's fine. Maybe "call out" wasn't the best terminology, it was more about adressing specific point with specific posters that you disagree with on this particular issue (or any issue for that matter). You did that to some extent, but I'm not sure how throwing up terms like "character assassination" or other generalizations about the board have to do with this specific issue or how it advances any particular argument. I could throw up a similar argument that you are "blind to the facts" etc. If anything this is the type of stuff that leads to the disputes/personal attacks you dislike.

There are facts here. I understand we all have different interpretations of them.

Like you, I hope Matusz rebounds and learns from his experience.

And that's where I'm going to leave it.

[Lance]

This is a very good sign that Matusz is taking his off season conditioning program seriously. Hopefully this will mean that we can lock him into the rotation depending on how he does in spring training.

[CA-ORIOLE]

And that's where I'm going to leave it.

Sounds good to me Frobby.