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From what I read Kenny Williams has asked for way way to much for Danks. I read a exec. say he asked for the whole team in return. If we could land Danks for Kakes with out kicking in money I would be all over it. I would also hope to get a extension window. I do like Markakis as a player but that contract was just awful and we could get similar production out of a free agent. I prefer to trade Jones as I think the return would be much better but if the Sox offer Danks for Kakes I would pull the trigger. I think Floyd could be had for cheaper. He is another interesting option but I would have a hard time trading Kakes for him unless they kicked in someone like Dayan Viciedo or Addison Reed.

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If Duquette is as handcuffed as I think he is from a budget standpoint, trading Nick for a reasonable return would be too tempting to resist, so I say yes. Moving Nick and Guthrie in smart deals would really help this team right now, IMO.

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It really is amazing to me that he doesn't seem to want to deal Jones...I wonder if that has more to do with Buck?

Jones is such an obvious trade candidate.

I don't think it's amazing at all. That being said, I don't necessarily agree with SJ, either. While it's possible that DD thinks he can build around Jones, despite the obstacles...IMO, hanging onto Jones is more about keeping the casual fans semi-interested.

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I don't think it's amazing at all. That being said, I don't necessarily agree with SJ, either. While it's possible that DD thinks he can build around Jones, despite the obstacles...IMO, hanging onto Jones is more about keeping the casual fans semi-interested.

Oh, so to keep the casual fans semi-interested, he is willing to do what is wrong for the long term? That's a smart strategy.

I put more blame on Buck though,.

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Oh, so to keep the casual fans semi-interested, he is willing to do what is wrong for the long term? That's a smart strategy.

I put more blame on Buck though,.

Baseball's a business...and, it seems, a business that's been making PA money. The "correct" answer is probably something along the lines of "I might be able to build a winner with Jones on the team, so I'll give it a shot, and I won't alienate the broader fanbase in the meantime by trading him for players it doesn't recognize."

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But who cares what Buck thinks? He isn't going to be here for the long term. He has never been a guy that sticks around for too long and since 2012 is shot to hell, that leaves him the window of one year and right now, that window is slammed shut that year as well because of the lack of talent.

This team has got to improve that.

In addition its not Bucks job to put a team on the field and it really shouldn't matter what he thinks. I can see taking his opinions and stuff but when it comes to Jones, our success in overhauling the team sort of depends on moving him.

I can see sitting Buck down and gauging his view of certain players and that having weight but him liking Jones shouldn't matter.

All things considered Jones offers much more value in a trade to us than Markakis.

And I love Jones, so nobody give me that crap.

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PA would never allow it.

Anyone who is expecting giant moves made this offseason should be prepared for utter disappointment.

I am sure you're right. I have been pissing and moaning for so long now for a real rebuild and I wonder if I am just as annoying as those expecting us to sing Fielder and every FA under the Sun (and that is a good idea).

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Nope. Another year of hoping the youngsters do well.

Duquette already said he is targeting ML ready SP via trades. So another year of hoping the youngsters do well is only part of the equation. In order for us to win at all the group has to improve, obviously.

As for Markakis..Im not sure. PA has allowed DD to bring in some of his own guys, and from what I know and have seen so far, I like it. IF PA allows DD to trade Markakis, it would benefit this team greatly.

Think about it. Would you rather have Jones or Markakis? I'll take Jones.

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Think about it. Would you rather have Jones or Markakis? I'll take Jones.

Ditto. Jones has likely yet to reach his peak. Markakis hit his in 2008 and has trended downward since.

I'd rather unload his contract before he becomes Ben Grieve/Alex Rios.

Now that he won a GG, he may be more attractive as a trade chip if the O's eat enough salary.

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