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I hear Rizzo is the one they are trying to move, but I'm thinking they'll take the best return they can get for whoever and just roll with it. The O's should be all over it, but somehow I don't see it happening.

You have to think the Pads would want Matusz. But would you deal BMat for either of the 3 first baseman?

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You have to think the Pads would want Matusz. But would you deal BMat for either of the 3 first baseman?

BMat for Alonso and Boxberger at least. I think SD is a perfect fit for Matusz, and Alonso would be best suited for an AL team with a hole at 1B and a short fence.

It's a good match, but Matusz has more upside than Alonso I think, so you have to figure out how to balance things. I really think Boxberger could be a closer, or at least a good set-up man, which would enable us to experiment with JJ in the rotation or deal him.

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BMat for Alonso and Boxberger at least. I think SD is a perfect fit for Matusz, and Alonso would be best suited for an AL team with a hole at 1B and a short fence.

It's a good match, but Matusz has more upside than Alonso I think, so you have to figure out how to balance things. I really think Boxberger could be a closer, or at least a good set-up man, which would enable us to experiment with JJ in the rotation or deal him.

Some people might not agree, but Matusz is a guy I would deal if I could bring back a decent haul.

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Also, is there any way a 3 team deal could be worked out, where some cheaper players are sent to the Pads and we can acquire one of these first baseman using guys like Guthrie?

I would also think that Johnson would be someone SD would be interested in.

I don't think Guthrie has any appeal for SD anymore, because they are obviously going younger now.

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Nice haul for the Padres. I am sure one of those first basemen will be available for the right package. If the O's think they can get Matusz right they should keep him though, pitching is a greater priority at this moment and if he bounces back his value will only climb. Tough call but would say no unless you can pull a deal that does not weaken what i consider to be a pretty weak pitching staff already.

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I'd actually put Grandal at 4th on the list.

Boxberger could be a closer easily.

Volquez is a #3 starter and will be better than that in SD.

Alonso will outhit Grandal and they both play similar levels of D.

Grandal I don't think will stick behind the plate and will end up without a position.

Really? I know Grandal's defense is shaky but I don't think he ends up needing to move to another position. The arm is good and he's pretty athletic. Even if he doesn't improve (and I don't really expect that he will) I think his bat is good enough that you can put up with it.

As for the others, Boxberger is good but still just a reliever. Alonso is a pretty mediocre first base prospect in my opinion - I think his upside is pretty much Adam Laroche, which isn't bad, but I don't see anything about him that I like better than Jesus Guzman. And I don't like Volquez at all - he's got major command problems and a really poor attitude to boot.

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Right...That's why we need to use him to go to another team and then send those players for Alonso, Rizzo or Blanks.

I think the Alonso dream has been squashed for now. Tampa can beat anything we try to put out there for a package and will get one of the two of Alonso or Rizzo if they want to deal Davis or Niemann.

There are no good, young ML ready 1B men out on the trade block any longer that the Orioles can realistically acquire...

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Really? I know Grandal's defense is shaky but I don't think he ends up needing to move to another position. The arm is good and he's pretty athletic. Even if he doesn't improve (and I don't really expect that he will) I think his bat is good enough that you can put up with it.

As for the others, Boxberger is good but still just a reliever. Alonso is a pretty mediocre first base prospect in my opinion - I think his upside is pretty much Adam Laroche, which isn't bad, but I don't see anything about him that I like better than Jesus Guzman. And I don't like Volquez at all - he's got major command problems and a really poor attitude to boot.

Grandal's bat is ok, but even at the draft people expected him to move to 1B because his C game is weak, and that's not a place you want a weak defensive player. I don't even think it's as elite as people make it out to be. Alonso is MUCH better with the bat than he is (think .325 hitter with 20-30 HR). Boxberger I was a fan of at USC, he's a RP, no doubt, BUT he's got the stuff to be a closer, and I think he will be. Volquez has had issues giving up HR in CIN, but in SD in a pitchers park, I think you'll see him bounce back strong. Keep in mind he had that nasty injury that made his control all out of whack before he finally shut down and had the surgery.

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