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Erik Bedard

Kevin Millar/Jay Payton

Chad Bradford

(mid/low-level prospect)

for

SP Clay Buchholz, 23 (ML)

SP Justin Masterson, 22 (AA)

RP Craig Hansen, 24 (AAA)

OF Ryan Kalish, 19 (Mid A)

2B/SS Jed Lowrie, 23 (AAA)

1B Chris Carter, 25 (AAA)

or

SP Clay Buchholz, 23 (ML)

SP Justin Masterson, 22 (AA)

RP Craig Hansen, 24 (AAA)

1B Lars Anderson, 20 (High A)

OF Ryan Kalish, 19 (Mid A)

SS/3B Will Middlebrooks, 19 (Low A)

or

1B/3B Kevin Youkilis

SP Justin Masterson, 22 (AA)

RP Craig Hansen, 24 (AAA)

OF Ryan Kalish, 19 (Mid A)

2B/SS Jed Lowrie, 23 (AAA)

SS/3B Will Middlebrooks, 19 (Low A)

That's a lot of players :D

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SrMeowMeow Hangout Grand Counsel

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I would not deal Bedard in-division, period. Packages are great and all, but there are some lines you do not cross.

Much like you still go out and play hard even if it may cost you the #1 draft pick and gain you nothing, it's simply wrong to give a division rival their ace for the next couple years.

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That is absurd...The Yankees and Red Sox could put together great packages for Bedard. You could make the argument that trading Bedard to one of them is better than anything else because we will be taking away from their top young players that they could use for the next 6-10 years.

Even though my head says that it makes sense to trade Bedard to Boston or NY if the price is right, the idea really hurts my heart. I just can't stand the idea of Erik pitching for them.

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I am in favor of dealing Bedard to wherever the best return comes from. This franchise can't worry about what other teams do. We need talent...bad. Let's worry about getting as much as we can now, and not worry about what other teams in our division do. If we could get a package centered around Bucholz, I'd be all for dealing him to Beantown.

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If Boston offered the Twins Crisp, Bucholtz, and Youkilis, I bet they'd have a hard time turning it down. Sure beats MelCab and Kennedy/Hughes. Then we could trade them Millar for a 1B stop gap until they can sign Tiex.:D

Don't you know Tex is coming here? He went to HS here, so he's definitely going to be an Oriole.

That Boston deal certainly beats whatever the Yanks are offering. I'd be surprised if Boston doesn't start offering Clay just to out-bid the Yanks. I bet they really want to make sure that Johan doesn't end up in pin stripes.

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I have watched the YES network with Mike and the Mad Dog for the past 3 years or so and I have come to the conclusion that Hughes and Joba are untouchable.

No team is going to give a lot up without giving Bedard an Extension.

I don't remember much of the Moose situtation, but he was left after his prime years. (31ish). Plus he did improve the Yankees.

The Yankees won multiple World Championships in the 90's. They have NOT won since Moose signed there. Therefore, he did NOT "improve the Yankees." Don't get me wrong, he is (was) a great pitcher, but you cannot make a statement like you did because its just not true.

As for Bedard (or anyone else not named Markakis) we are in rebuilding mode. We do not plan on winnning in the next year or two, so you trade him to WHOEVER is giving the best package, whether that be the Dodgers, Mets, or even the dreaded Sox or Yankees!

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Even though my head says that it makes sense to trade Bedard to Boston or NY if the price is right, the idea really hurts my heart. I just can't stand the idea of Erik pitching for them.

Due to Bedard's stand-offish attitude, its been hard to really love thr guy like a true Orioles great. It wouldn't take me long to absolutely hate him if he pitched for the Red Sox or Yankees.

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Love the biting sarcasm. I almost can't wait until Tex signs elsewhere so everyone can get over him, to put it nicely.

Man it's been awhile since we've talked about Tex... :D

You know, you could see the Dodgers deal Loney and sign Teixeira next year, especially with Mattingly there as the HC. Nomar would play 1B for them in the interim. Just a thought...

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Man it's been awhile since we've talked about Tex... :D

You know, you could see the Dodgers deal Loney and sign Teixeira next year, especially with Mattingly there as the HC. Nomar would play 1B for them in the interim. Just a thought...

From what I understand, the Braves don't have any intention of letting Tex go anytime soon.

I just find it funny that almost an entire message board can pin their hopes and dreams of the future of a franchise on someone who's been anywhere from 3-4 years away from free agency....just because he grew up in the area. It's not like a LOT could happen in that time frame. I guess when you're looking through orange tinted glasses, he'll be going into the HoF as an Oriole.

Pardon my ire, but I'm just not in the best mood after this mornings events...

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The Yankees won multiple World Championships in the 90's. They have NOT won since Moose signed there. Therefore, he did NOT "improve the Yankees." Don't get me wrong, he is (was) a great pitcher, but you cannot make a statement like you did because its just not true.

As for Bedard (or anyone else not named Markakis) we are in rebuilding mode. We do not plan on winnning in the next year or two, so you trade him to WHOEVER is giving the best package, whether that be the Dodgers, Mets, or even the dreaded Sox or Yankees!

Moose had one of his best years the year he signed with them. So he did improve the Yankees. The Yankees were generally the best team going into the Playoffs. Playoffs are a roll of the dice, and they haven't one the big one yet.

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I would not deal Bedard in-division, period. Packages are great and all, but there are some lines you do not cross.

Much like you still go out and play hard even if it may cost you the #1 draft pick and gain you nothing, it's simply wrong to give a division rival their ace for the next couple years.

Like winning? That is a line we haven't crossed in years.

But hey, why let that get in the way of improving the team the best possible way you can. :rolleyes:

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