Orioles are talking to Saunders

[byrdz]

If Arrieta is healthy that is.

Don't mean to derail but what's the latest? Maybe I missed it.

[33rdst]

If Arrieta is healthy that is.

Is there any reason to believe he won't be healthy. Have you heard anything?

[byrdz]

Here's latest on Arrieta:

Jake Arrieta (elbow) has thrown on flat-ground several times.

Arrieta had a bone spur removed from his throwing elbow in August. He's had no setbacks yet in his rehab and looks to be on track for the start of spring training. The 25-year-old right-hander posted a 5.05 ERA and 93/59 K/BB ratio in 119 1/3 innings this past season for the Orioles.

[33rdst]

Here's latest on Arrieta:

Great thanks.

[Birds08]

Yea I was thinking the same thing. Arrieta is going to be a big part of the rotation this year.

Big part of Orioles rotation = being tallest midget

[Frobby]

Vs. BOS -- 4.17 ERA in 54 IP (9 starts)

Vs. NYY -- 6.28 ERA in 28.2 IP (5 starts)

Vs. TAM -- 7.59 ERA in 10.2 IP (2 starts)

Vs. TOR -- 3.83 ERA in 47.0 IP (7 starts)

Combined vs. AL East (excl. Baltimore) -- 4.75 ERA in 140.3 IP (23 starts). He has started 3 games at OPACY (which means Camden Yards, Bill), and is 3-0 with a 4.58 ERA.

Overall, I think he's more or less a Guthrie-level pitcher, maybe just a hair below. He'd probably have a 4.5ish ERA pitching for us. I might be more inclined to go get him if we were going to trade Guthrie.

[Can_of_corn]

Vs. BOS -- 4.17 ERA in 54 IP (9 starts)

Vs. NYY -- 6.28 ERA in 28.2 IP (5 starts)

Vs. TAM -- 7.59 ERA in 10.2 IP (2 starts)

Vs. TOR -- 3.83 ERA in 47.0 IP (7 starts)

Combined vs. AL East (excl. Baltimore) -- 4.75 ERA in 140.3 IP (23 starts). He has started 3 games at OPACY (which means Camden Yards, Bill), and is 3-0 with a 4.58 ERA.

Overall, I think he's more or less a Guthrie-level pitcher, maybe just a hair below. He'd probably have a 4.5ish ERA pitching for us. I might be more inclined to go get him if we were going to trade Guthrie.

I just don't see 4.6 K/9, 2.8 BB/9 translating well to the AL East.

[Roll Tide]

Id be fine with him if he cango 200+ innings and a era under 4.00. He did it in Arizona with half his starts at home and also did it with the Angels. He'd likely be our #2 if Guthrie stays put.

[OrangeJerseys]

We should be talking to anyone who can pitch below a era of 4.50-5.00.

[Frobby]

I just don't see 4.6 K/9, 2.8 BB/9 translating well to the AL East.

I get tired of hearing the "AL East" stuff sometimes. First of all, fewer than half the games are against the AL East. Second, whatever "AL East" adjustment exists, should apply just as much to higher-K pitchers as to lower-K pitchers, IMO. Whatever has allowed Saunders to have decent results despite a poor K rate should apply in the AL East, just as much as some other pitcher with about the same ERA who has more conventional K rates. And third, his track record against the AL East is decent, as shown in my prior post.

FWIW, against the AL East, Saunders has a 5.0 K/9 and 3.3 BB/9.

[Can_of_corn]

I get tired of hearing the "AL East" stuff sometimes. First of all, fewer than half the games are against the AL East. Second, whatever "AL East" adjustment exists, should apply just as much to higher-K pitchers than lower-K pitchers, IMO. Whatever has allowed Saunders to have decent results despite a poor K rate should apply in the AL East, just as much as some other pitcher with about the same ERA who has more conventional K rates. And third, his track record against the AL East is decent, as shown in my prior post.

FWIW, against the AL East, Saunders has a 5.0 K/9 and 3.3 BB/9.

What I meant by it is that the Yankees/RSox/Rays generally have good approaches at the plate. I think this will probably cause his walk rate to increase to an unacceptable level. I see no real reason he can not maintain his K Rate but it is pretty pedestrian already.

[weams]

I for one am glad they finally tried to work out a deal with Saunders. It's about time they got some quality fried chicken in that place, and the Colonel is just the guy to get it for, uh, them. Hm. This isn't about adding KFC to oriole park is it? Oh. That's unfortunate. My bad, carry on.

One of my first jobs was as the Chicken Room guy at Gino's. For those of you who remember Mr. Marchetti's Original Fast Food restaurant you know that they served KFC. I was pretty sure I had figured out the 11 Herbs and Spices. I always preferred the pressure cooked Original to the Extra Crispy. It worked out good on holidays that even throughout my College years, I could go to work there for a few evening shifts. No one wanted to close the Chicken Room. Quite the Mess.

I would also prefer not to have Joe Saunders.

[crawjo]

I agree that Jackson would be a better option but the hyperbole coming out of Boras' camp is that Jackson is more appealing than Darvish. What do you think Boras wants for him?

He won't take anything less than 4/40, is my guess.

[Larry18]

Chuck Wepner wannabe.

[Sports Guy]

I have very little doubt he will get at least a 2 year deal from someone better than the Orioles...meaning we have to go higher than that.