Votto nearing 10 year extension

[DrungoHazewood]

From Rosenthal.

Hard to imagine Cinci looking back on this deal in 10 years and saying it was a good idea.

It's not that hard, but I agree the risk is very substantial. I saw some numbers thrown around on his comps that a reasonable expectation is he'll produce 25, maybe 30 wins over the deal (of course very frontloaded), but that they're paying for about 40. And there's always the chance he becomes Junior Griffey (not that Cincy has any experience with that!) and he gives them 10 wins over those 10 years, overpaying by maybe 500%.

Think about it this way: Jim Rice's career was worth about 40 wins and he's in the HOF, even if he didn't really deserve it. They're expecting Votto to have Jim Rice's entire career during his decline phase in his 30s. In the entire history of baseball there have only been 38 position players who've done that.

[Floater]

Reds were kind of stuck with Votto. If they gave him that big extension, people are gonna say, "How could you give him that much money?" If they let him go, people are gonna say, "How could you let the face of your franchise go?" Had to pay him big or lose the face of their franchise.

[DrungoHazewood]

Reds were kind of stuck with Votto. If they gave him that big extension, people are gonna say, "How could you give him that much money?" If they let him go, people are gonna say, "How could you let the face of your franchise go?" Had to pay him big or lose the face of their franchise.

Yea, but they didn't have to do it now. They could have mitigated some risk by waiting a year or two to see how he plays. Instead they signed him to a 5/112 deal that starts in two years, and another 5/112 deal that starts in 7 years.

[Can_of_corn]

Reds were kind of stuck with Votto. If they gave him that big extension, people are gonna say, "How could you give him that much money?" If they let him go, people are gonna say, "How could you let the face of your franchise go?" Had to pay him big or lose the face of their franchise.

Yea, but they didn't have to do it now. They could have mitigated some risk by waiting a year or two to see how he plays. Instead they signed him to a 5/112 deal that starts in two years, and another 5/112 deal that starts in 7 years.

I have to think they could have tried harder to haggle them down off of a 12 year commitment with a full no trade clause.

[Sports Guy]

Cinci can spend 225 million on one player and can give a cuban defector 30+ million.

The Orioles wouldn't even spend 3.5M on Sano.

[Moose Milligan]

Cinci can spend 225 million on one player and can give a cuban defector 30+ million.

The Orioles wouldn't even spend 3.5M on Sano.

Bingo bango.

The best part of this is that El Trea isn't here to bemoan about how Votto was our next target and how we're screwed for the foreseeable future.

[Sports Guy]

And now 6/72 on Phillips...300M for these 2 players.

http://espn.go.com/mlb/story/_/id/7796273/cincinnati-reds-brandon-phillips-agree-six-year-extension-sources-say

[BaltimoreTerp]

Brian Roberts called, and said, "Man, that contract is long and expensive."

(I originally wrote it as an "It's so long it makes my head hurt" joke, but figured that would be a bit too much.)

[Frobby]

Brian Roberts called, and said, "Man, that contract is long and expensive."

(I originally wrote it as an "It's so long it makes my head hurt" joke, but figured that would be a bit too much.)

And then you did it anyway. But it's pretty funny, unless you are BRob, in which case it isn't.