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How can you disagree? I didn't say he should be banned for life. I said that's what I believe the rules state.

Not that it matters to me, but you said, "he can/should be banned for life."

I think I understand now that you meant "should be banned according to the letter of the law," but your initial post was not clear.

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Slappy Major Leaguer

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This would be such an awful signing, but, it doesn't surprise me given the general mentality of this board to pay a guy when he is playing above his head for a month or two. We've already taken on one huge unwarranted OF contract this season, I suppose we could work on sinking the next 14 years if we pull another? The only way you even consider this is if the O's are true contenders with a dynamic, young, inexpensive core. (We aren't yet -- I still think it is much more likely we'll be under .500 at the end of the year than above it given our talent level)

If the current core of Jones, Wieters, Markakis, Chen, Davis, Strop, etc. isn't good enough, how many more years do you just sit on your hands?

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Josh Hamilton could be this orioles version of Frank Robinson whom the orioles got in his age 30 season. Robinson went onto win 1 mvp award and finishing top three two other times as well as a 10th and 11th place finishes in the balloting Josh Hamilton is of that same kind of talent. Hamilton wont have as many suitors do to the off the field isues and the rangers have so many young upcoming stars that they need to sign they might not be able to pay Hamilton what he is worth. This is the one lineup game changing hitter the Orioles have a serious chance to get. Duqutte signed Manny when he was with Boston for big money they are similiar talents. Dont know if it would help or hurt the orioles but Hamiltons wifes father is originally from Baltimore.(That fact is detailed in the Josh Hamilton Biography book) I hope this is the marquee free agent the orioles go after and sign him this offseason go orioles.

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Love the idea of Hamilton but we havent been so successful in those big names coming in after F robbie

Glenn Davis

Albert Belle

Tejada

sosa

javy lopez

etc

i just dont see PA opening the pocketbooks on an extremely talented yet risky move like hamilton. would love to be wrong

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Love the idea of Hamilton but we havent been so successful in those big names coming in after F robbie

Glenn Davis

Albert Belle

Tejada

sosa

javy lopez

etc

i just dont see PA opening the pocketbooks on an extremely talented yet risky move like hamilton. would love to be wrong

I would say Tejada was pretty successful for us.

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Belle opsd over 900 and had a 3.1 war. Tejada had a war of 7.1 5.5 4.2 and finally 2.0. Angelos signed big time free agents in the mid ninties Alomar who produced a 5.0 3.2 and 3.5 war, and Palmerio who had war of 5.2 4.2 2.8 5.9. Now its sad that weve had so few big time free agents come here over the years but we shouldnt be gun shy by failed signings, weve had some quality signings. And this is now not the past the orioles cant dwell on the past they have to build for the now and the future. Hopefully this regime of Buck and Duquette can get that across to Angelos and convince him to once again open up the check book for such a rare talent in Josh Hamilton.

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If the current core of Jones, Wieters, Markakis, Chen, Davis, Strop, etc. isn't good enough, how many more years do you just sit on your hands?

Unfortunately, it is this: Wait until we actually develop a solid pitching staff. Bundy looks like a huge step toward that along with Britton/Matusz/Arrietta, but it's still no guarantee. Jones is a solid player getting paid like a superstar. It isn't the worst contract, but I would have rather seen him traded. I do not believe Jones is a .900+ OPS guy. I think he's low .800 at best, with average defense. Still solid, still above average, still a key component, but not at the 15+ mil a year range. Wieters still has a lot of upside from my perspective and is the biggest key we should lock up. Markakis is what he is at this point. A solid component, perhaps slightly overpaid. Chen has been a great surprise, and certainly someone to think about extending if he continues to show he can perform, which I'm not sold on believing quite yet. Japanese culture values loyalty a lot more than American culture, so we might be able to extend him when the time comes at a very reasonable rate. Davis is unproven and unfortunately a 1-dimensional player. I'd be surprised to see him much above .800 OPS at the end of the year. Still a decent DH option. Bullpen is great...trade them all at the deadline for prospects unless we are at or near the top. If we're 8 or 9 back (which I'd expect we'll be at that point), pick one to keep (Strop perhaps) and trade the other high performers.

And whatever we do, don't sign big free agents til we arrive, especially ones who are injury or mental issue problems. Still breathing sighs of relief that we dodged the Prince Fielder train-wreck. Looks like we're finally in the air, just let's not crash it with giddy misspent optimism. 2B, 3B, 1B, LF and 5 of 5 SP are still big question marks / room for talent upgrade.

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