20/20 Hindsight: Which Group Do You Prefer?

[Frobby]

Group 1: Snyder, Rowell, Wieters, Matusz, Hobgood, Machado, Bundy

Group 2: Trevor Crowe, Lincecum, Detwiler, Posey, Wheeler, Colon, Starling.

Group 3: Broadway, Scherzer, LaPorta, Skipworth, Minor, Pomeranz, Rendon.

The first group is comprised of Joe Jordan's first round picks. The second is whoever was picked immediately thereafter. The third is whoever was picked immediately after that.

[Fan4Life]

Have to go with Group #1. Bundy (at least at this point) tips the scale in that favor for me.

[Fan4Life]

However... considering we could have had any of those options, I suppose the best case scenario would have been:

?, Lincecum, Wieters, Matusz, Minor, Machado, Bundy

[Frobby]

However... considering we could have had any of those options, I suppose the best case scenario would have been:

?, Lincecum, Wieters, Matusz, Minor, Machado, Bundy

The reason I set it up this way is that you can almost always find some player drafted after your guy who does better. But if you just look at the group that was one pcik behind, or two picks behind, you get a better read on how your team did as a whole.

Obviously, Lincecum was a killer, especially since we got zero out of that pick.

[Frobby]

Group #1 but I still don't think we've drafted well overall. That's probably not bad although all of the hits were on top 5 picks. The whole 2009 draft is probably a total loss, which is unacceptable for a team that needed to string together 3-4 good drafts.

I'd have to agree with you. We needed to do better.

[Fan4Life]

The reason I set it up this way is that you can almost always find some player drafted after your guy who does better. But if you just look at the group that was one pcik behind, or two picks behind, you get a better read on how your team did as a whole.

Obviously, Lincecum was a killer, especially since we got zero out of that pick.

If you take Bundy (IE the last pick of that group) out of the equation, then Group #2 likely is better in my view.

[Singleton]

Group 1: Snyder, Rowell, Wieters, Matusz, Hobgood, Machado, Bundy

Group 2: Trevor Crowe, Lincecum, Detwiler, Posey, Wheeler, Colon, Starling.

Group 3: Broadway, Scherzer, LaPorta, Skipworth, Minor, Pomeranz, Rendon.

The first group is comprised of Joe Jordan's first round picks. The second is whoever was picked immediately thereafter. The third is whoever was picked immediately after that.

i think you can make a pretty strong argument for group 2.

We're all excited by Bundy but Lincecum has already won 2 Cy Young awards and 4 All Star appearances. Oh and he's won the World Series and been the postseason MVP. Are we bold enough to believe Bundy will do better?

Posey vs Weiters is an interesting comp. You can certainly make the case for Posey.

Wheeler vs Matusz? I don't think we know what we have in Matusz. Wheeler hasn't tasted MLB but is putting up some popping AAA numbers.

Then it is Machado against the field. Colon looks like he may be a solid regular. Detwiler looks to be useful and Starling is the huge wild card.

Objectively I might lean #2 but we need a lot more info to know for sure.

[Frobby]

i think you can make a pretty strong argument for group 2.

We're all excited by Bundy but Lincecum has already won 2 Cy Young awards and 4 All Star appearances. Oh and he's won the World Series and been the postseason MVP. Are we bold enough to believe Bundy will do better?

Posey vs Weiters is an interesting comp. You can certainly make the case for Posey.

Wheeler vs Matusz? I don't think we know what we have in Matusz. Wheeler hasn't tasted MLB but is putting up some popping AAA numbers.

Then it is Machado against the field. Colon looks like he may be a solid regular. Detwiler looks to be useful and Starling is the huge wild card.

Objectively I might lean #2 but we need a lot more info to know for sure.

I think that you are absolutely right that it depends on what Bundy does. Lincecum is better than anyone we've produced at the major league level. Bundy doesn't have to beat Lincecum, but he has to be a TOR starter for our group to beat Group 2.

[Stotle]

As of today, it's group 2 for me.

Detwiler and Matusz have essentially been a wash thus far through their respective careers.

Posey and Wieters are essentially a wash.

Lincecum has accumulated 22.6 rWAR so far. Nothing in group 1 comes close.

Then you have the "prospects", Bundy/Machado vs. Wheeler/Starling/Colon. I think that group is pretty close as far as overall value.

BAL also gets credit for Snyder, who looks like a MLB bat and potentially a second division starter.

So this isn't really that close for me. Group 2.

[baltfan]

Fat fingered it and voted 1. Got to be 2 though. Two Cy Youngs trumps the rest even if Lincecum Is struggling now.

[Trackmaster]

I thought that group #1 and group #2 were pretty close, but most of the value in the first one were based off of their potential. I figured that due to them being hometown picks, I would be pretty biased in their favor at this point, and they would be household names to me, while some of the other names might be household names to other team's fans. That might me go group #2, seeing that the one names that would really make an impression throughout the country would be Bundy and Wieters, maybe Machado for the draft gurus.