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Mondo Trasho Major Leaguer Cup of Coffee

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I wouldn't call Wada a lock for next year. There were questions about him being a starter before he got hurt. Those questions are probably even greater now.
Wada isn't a lock. Even if he comes back strong his stuff is better suited to the bullpen.

Well then there you go. 9 starters for 5 rotation slots then. Point remains though. If you were planning on bringing in a good pitcher this offseason (and paying for it) then Lee is your answer. If not, then don't bother.

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Well then there you go. 9 starters for 5 rotation slots then. Point remains though. If you were planning on bringing in a good pitcher this offseason (and paying for it) then Lee is your answer. If not, then don't bother.

Id also think it would be a miracle if Matusz gives us anything next year. And I don't trust Arrieta, Britton , and Tillman. Im of the belief add the talent, and sort it out later. Alot of people thought we had depth at starting pitching this year, now here we are browsing the waiver wire scrap heap.

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I wouldn't touch Cliff Lee and that contract with a ten foot poll.
Pete Angelos has never paid a starting pitcher $10 million/year let alone $25 million. Yes, he did reportedly offer Mussina $12 million/year, but he hasn't come close before or since.

Might as well put this in the MLB forum because it doesn't apply to the Orioles.

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232.2 IP, 238 K, 2.40 ERA, 1.03 WHIP, 17 wins.

Cliff Lee last year.

Yea, he's awful and our 4.23 team ERA and 1.34 team WHIP have no use for this guy:rolleyes:

I must have missed all the posts that said he was awful and not a good pitcher. I did see plenty that said, or implied, that he's not gonna be worth the salary.

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Pete Angelos has never paid a starting pitcher $10 million/year let alone $25 million. Yes, he did reportedly offer Mussina $12 million/year, but he hasn't come close before or since.

Might as well put this in the MLB forum because it doesn't apply to the Orioles.

So you're telling us there's a chance!

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I must have missed all the posts that said he was awful and not a good pitcher. I did see plenty that said, or implied, that he's not gonna be worth the salary.

Yea let's not overpay anyone. Because offering fair value contracts has just gone swimmingly for us in the FA market.

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Yea let's not overpay anyone. Because offering fair value contracts has just gone swimmingly for us in the FA market.

OK, let's go buck wild and get anyone who could help win even 1 more game. How about Vernon Wells and Barry Zito too? Let's pretend that we have an unlimited payroll and that Pete is going to authorize that.

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OK, let's go buck wild and get anyone who could help win even 1 more game. How about Vernon Wells and Barry Zito too? Let's pretend that we have an unlimited payroll and that Pete is going to authorize that.

Let's please not ever compare Cliff Lee to Vernon Wells or Barry Zito ever again. Pete probably would never authorize that, he's horrible. My only point is that a guy like Cliff Lee could really help us not just this year but next year too and that the only way to get a guy of his caliber is to overpay.

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Let's please not ever compare Cliff Lee to Vernon Wells or Barry Zito ever again. Pete probably would never authorize that, he's horrible. My only point is that a guy like Cliff Lee could really help us not just this year but next year too and that the only way to get a guy of his caliber is to overpay.

He's also going to be 34 next year (actually in a few weeks), and you still have to pay him 25M for his age 35 and 36 seasons. Possibly his 37 season too if his option kicks in. Not only would Pete not authorize it, it's a terrible way to spend 100M.

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He's also going to be 34 next year (actually in a few weeks), and you still have to pay him 25M for his age 35 and 36 seasons. Possibly his 37 season too if his option kicks in. Not only would Pete not authorize it, it's a terrible way to spend 100M.

I think that's fair. I just don't want anyone to think that if we don't put 100m towards Lee that we'll have that money to spend on another big name pitcher. Because, well, we all know that's not gonna happen.

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He's also going to be 34 next year (actually in a few weeks), and you still have to pay him 25M for his age 35 and 36 seasons. Possibly his 37 season too if his option kicks in. Not only would Pete not authorize it, it's a terrible way to spend 100M.

First of all, it's not 100M, second of all, it's not "terrible." As I pointed out he's just one year removed from the best season of his career.

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