McLovin Posted August 15, 2012 Share Posted August 15, 2012 Aaron Crow is in the pen as well. He hasn't accomplished was Matusz did over his first few years though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cb3fsu Posted August 15, 2012 Share Posted August 15, 2012 Did anyone hear what Palmer just said about Matusz getting moved to the pen? Something like some players aren't that coach able, or receptive to coaching...I'm not saying I've heard anything, but the truth is his stuff just isn't that good. That's not an exact quote and I'm a little intoxicated but there was no mistaking that Palmer was less than impressed with Brian Matusz this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burg Posted August 15, 2012 Share Posted August 15, 2012 Hopefully the move results in some value out of Matusz and hopefully he embraces the move. I thought it was interesting that Palmer said on tonight's broadcast that Matusz was not as coachable as he should be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ampontan Posted August 15, 2012 Share Posted August 15, 2012 They must think that they could use him out of the pen before rosters expand. Otherwise, this is too early to make the change. Why is it too early? He hasn't done it before and has to get acclimated to the role. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brendan25 Posted August 15, 2012 Share Posted August 15, 2012 IF Matusz can get lefties out at the major league level, and Romero ends up pitching well, plus Patton, we have something special in our bullpen in September. I wonder if Buck drove this idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SrMeowMeow Posted August 15, 2012 Share Posted August 15, 2012 It wouldn't surprise me if Matusz's best shot as a major league player is as a reliever. He's just looked so mediocre for so long. But it is probably too early to go that route. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brendan25 Posted August 15, 2012 Share Posted August 15, 2012 It wouldn't surprise me if Matusz's best shot as a major league player is as a reliever. He's just looked so mediocre for so long. But it is probably too early to go that route. I don't think that is what the O's think right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony-OH Posted August 15, 2012 Share Posted August 15, 2012 This could be a attempt to use him as a lefty specialist this season, but he goes back to a starting pitcher next year.Too young to give up on as a starter, IMHO. It doesn't mean this is forever, it just means this is a way for him to help the team this year. This is what I love about DD. We haven't had that kind of thinking around here in a long time, mainly because the Orioles have not been in this situation. If Matusz can be an effective reliever for us this year great, use him. They can always move him back to the rotation next spring or, maybe Matusz will prove this is his best role. Considering him much he seems to labor and the fact that he's never been much of a work horse, this might be his best role. Maybe this is what Brian needs as well. A role he an handle effectively. I like this move a lot. In the past this organization would have Nolan Reimold playing right field in the minors when it was clear he would be a left fielder with the Orioles with Markakis. I've been clamoring for years for the Orioles to use the players and pitchers in the role they will eventually perform. Matusz to the bullpen makes sense because he's not cutting it as a starter and the Orioles are trying to win games this year. The major leagues is no longer about development, it's about winning and if Matusz can help the team win out of the pen, good for everyone. I have to imagine he's better than JC Romero. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miller192 Posted August 15, 2012 Share Posted August 15, 2012 It doesn't mean this is forever, it just means this is a way for him to help the team this year. This is what I love about DD. We haven't had that kind of thinking around here in a long time, mainly because the Orioles have not been in this situation. If Matusz can be an effective reliever for us this year great, use him. They can always move him back to the rotation next spring or, maybe Matusz will prove this is his best role. Considering him much he seems to labor and the fact that he's never been much of a work horse, this might be his best role. Maybe this is what Brian needs as well. A role he an handle effectively. I like this move a lot. In the past this organization would have Nolan Reimold playing right field in the minors when it was clear he would be a left fielder with the Orioles with Markakis. I've been clamoring for years for the Orioles to use the players and pitchers in the role they will eventually perform. Matusz to the bullpen makes sense because he's not cutting it as a starter and the Orioles are trying to win games this year. The major leagues is no longer about development, it's about winning and if Matusz can help the team win out of the pen, good for everyone. I have to imagine he's better than JC Romero. I agree with everything you say except for the bolded. I'm not sure Matusz is one of the top three left handers in Norfolk. I'd roll with Romero until Matusz gets his feet wet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cmurter Posted August 15, 2012 Share Posted August 15, 2012 It doesn't mean this is forever, it just means this is a way for him to help the team this year. This is what I love about DD. We haven't had that kind of thinking around here in a long time, mainly because the Orioles have not been in this situation. If Matusz can be an effective reliever for us this year great, use him. They can always move him back to the rotation next spring or, maybe Matusz will prove this is his best role. Considering him much he seems to labor and the fact that he's never been much of a work horse, this might be his best role. Maybe this is what Brian needs as well. A role he an handle effectively. I like this move a lot. In the past this organization would have Nolan Reimold playing right field in the minors when it was clear he would be a left fielder with the Orioles with Markakis. I've been clamoring for years for the Orioles to use the players and pitchers in the role they will eventually perform. Matusz to the bullpen makes sense because he's not cutting it as a starter and the Orioles are trying to win games this year. The major leagues is no longer about development, it's about winning and if Matusz can help the team win out of the pen, good for everyone. I have to imagine he's better than JC Romero. Nailed it. This has become the new attitude, and there's no doubt it's what is making this season so much more enjoyable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beardbr Posted August 15, 2012 Share Posted August 15, 2012 I think a large part of Brian's problem is mental. Perhaps having him in the bullpen will keep him from overthinking, never really knowing when he will be needed and used. Thus he must always be prepared. No time to really think about the next start and what it means Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JayThomas Posted August 15, 2012 Share Posted August 15, 2012 This move of Brian to the bullpen, ostensibly to help shore up the O's bullpen from the left side soon, is also an indictment of Dana Evelend. If they really needed a left-handed reliever who could pitch multiple innings and they thought he could do it, they'd pull him up right now. So either they don't think Eveland is what they want for that role in Baltimore or Buck is blowing smoke about this move as a way of getting Brian back to the big leagues sooner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CA-ORIOLE Posted August 15, 2012 Share Posted August 15, 2012 This move of Brian to the bullpen, ostensibly to help shore up the O's bullpen from the left side soon, is also an indictment of Dana Evelend. If they really needed a left-handed reliever who could pitch multiple innings and they thought he could do it, they'd pull him up right now. So either they don't think Eveland is what they want for that role in Baltimore or Buck is blowing smoke about this move as a way of getting Brian back to the big leagues sooner. Maybe they just think Matusz is better than Eveland in that role. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JayThomas Posted August 15, 2012 Share Posted August 15, 2012 Maybe they just think Matusz is better than Eveland in that role. Yes, which I think is an indictment of Eveland, given that he's primed for that role and you could even say he was traded for to fill that role. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CA-ORIOLE Posted August 15, 2012 Share Posted August 15, 2012 Yes, which I think is an indictment of Eveland, given that he's primed for that role and you could even say he was traded for to fill that role. Matusz was a highly regarded first round pitcher. Eveland is basically a journeyman pitcher with some interesting peripherals that we got for a couple fringe minor leaguers. The issue has shifted from devlopment to immediately helping the team in a limited role. Matusz has more talent. Is anybody going to question that Matusz has more talent than Dana Eveland? How can that be possibly be construed as an indictment on Dana Eveland? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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