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[tywright]

Huh?

I hope you aren't suggesting:

Bedard, Roberts

for

Morrow, Tillman, Butler

Huh ? what??

I meant if we wanted to get Morrow, Tillman and Butler in the proposed Jones and Clement deal then Roberts would need to be included.

[OSfanfromCT]

Clement isn't regarded as a good defensive catcher, so that would only hinder our young staff. He's more valuable as a trade chip than he is at 1B.

However it happens, I really hope that Clement is at least a part of the deal. I agree, I'd personally like to see him traded for a really good SS prospect like Brignac, but let's hope Peace is right and we get him along w/ Jones + ?? in a deal with the M's.

[Sandwich Pick]

Huh ? what??

I meant if we wanted to get Morrow, Tillman and Butler in the proposed Jones and Clement deal then Roberts would need to be included.

Ohhhh

That makes sense. My B, dawg. Misinterpreted your post.

[Lester Freamon]

Are you hearing anything about talks with Millar to the Rangers? Nothing serious yet but ongoing conversations.

Haven't read through the whole thread yet so sorry if this has been posted.

The Rangers traded for Ben Broussard and picked up Chris Shelton. Seems like the perfect 1B platoon to me.

Thanks for all the info.

[Go_Os]

I'm just not convinced that any of the Mariner's prospects will turn out to be all-star quality players. Adam Jones will be a very good player, but not quite elite (a Mike Cameron type or at best Torii Hunter). I wouldn't hate a Jones/Clement centered deal, but I feel we could do better.

I would much prefer a deal with the Reds with Cueto and Hamilton as the key pieces. I'm a huge fan of Hamilton and Cueto seems like a sure bet for a #2 starter or better. Sure, Hamilton is 27 and has a history, but he's an amazing talent. I think he'll be extremely productive for 8-10 years, and has 40 HR power and has a gun of an arm.

[ilovetheos]

I'm just not convinced that any of the Mariner's prospects will turn out to be all-star quality players. Adam Jones will be a very good player, but not quite elite (a Mike Cameron type or at best Torii Hunter). I wouldn't hate a Jones/Clement centered deal, but I feel we could do better.

I would much prefer a deal with the Reds with Cueto and Hamilton as the key pieces. I'm a huge fan of Hamilton and Cueto seems like a sure bet for a #2 starter or better. Sure, Hamilton is 27 and has a history, but he's an amazing talent. I think he'll be extremely productive for 8-10 years, and has 40 HR power and has a gun of an arm.

I'd take a Torii Hunter in a heartbeat!!!

[JTrea81]

I'm just not convinced that any of the Mariner's prospects will turn out to be all-star quality players. Adam Jones will be a very good player, but not quite elite (a Mike Cameron type or at best Torii Hunter). I wouldn't hate a Jones/Clement centered deal, but I feel we could do better.

Mike Cameron and Torii Hunter were both All-Stars. If that's what Jones turns into, I'll gladly take that manning CF for the next 6+ years.

[orioles119]

Mike Cameron and Torii Hunter were both All-Stars. If that's what Jones turns into, I'll gladly take that manning CF for the next 6+ years.

Moreso Hunter then Cameron.

[Sandwich Pick]

I'd take a Torii Hunter in a heartbeat!!!

Why?

[JTrea81]

Moreso Hunter then Cameron.

Cameron has played good defense and has had an OPS+ of 100+ for his entire career save for one year. If that's his floor, no problems there.

[ilovetheos]

Why?

Hunter is an all star with MVP written all over him...If Adam Jones can do that, I'll take it.

[Sandwich Pick]

I'm just not convinced that any of the Mariner's prospects will turn out to be all-star quality players. Adam Jones will be a very good player, but not quite elite (a Mike Cameron type or at best Torii Hunter). I wouldn't hate a Jones/Clement centered deal, but I feel we could do better.

I would much prefer a deal with the Reds with Cueto and Hamilton as the key pieces. I'm a huge fan of Hamilton and Cueto seems like a sure bet for a #2 starter or better. Sure, Hamilton is 27 and has a history, but he's an amazing talent. I think he'll be extremely productive for 8-10 years, and has 40 HR power and has a gun of an arm.

Gun of an arm, eh?

I don;t see him being "extremely productive" after 35 years of age. I'd prefer not to get Hamilton as we already know this team won't be competitive for a few years. The O's shouldn;t add anyone over 25 unless they'll be flipped elsewhere.

[theobird]

I'm just not convinced that any of the Mariner's prospects will turn out to be all-star quality players. Adam Jones will be a very good player, but not quite elite (a Mike Cameron type or at best Torii Hunter). I wouldn't hate a Jones/Clement centered deal, but I feel we could do better.

I would much prefer a deal with the Reds with Cueto and Hamilton as the key pieces. I'm a huge fan of Hamilton and Cueto seems like a sure bet for a #2 starter or better. Sure, Hamilton is 27 and has a history, but he's an amazing talent. I think he'll be extremely productive for 8-10 years, and has 40 HR power and has a gun of an arm.

I prefer a reds deal as well. Maybe this M's talk will get them off the mark. And maybe we could expand the deal a bit. I want Cueto, Hamilton and Votto for Bedard. If I had to kick in Millar, no problem. Maybe they would like Ramon? I'd swap Ramon for Valentin if it would get the 3 others back for Bedard. Aslo, Keppinger would be a huge addition to the O's. I am hoping that Krivsky gets a little pep in his step and steps up soon.

[Go_Os]

Mike Cameron and Torii Hunter were both All-Stars. If that's what Jones turns into, I'll gladly take that manning CF for the next 6+ years.

Jones hasn't really proved anything in the big leagues. Hamilton had 19 homers in 298 ABs. Bat Markakis 3rd and Hamilton 4th. That's pretty exciting to me.

IMO...

Adam Jones = Mike Cameron

Josh Hamilton = Matt Holliday

[Sandwich Pick]

Hunter is an all star with MVP written all over him...If Adam Jones can do that, I'll take it.

Hunter will never be an MVP in the MLB.