OHers Top 30 lists

[weams]

Weams, I love what he did for us. I think the reason I had him at #16 was he has mediocre stuff and decent command, but he's a gutty kid who goes out and competes well. If you noticed, Buck was fairly careful who he pitched him against. That does not mean that I don't consider him a possible candidate for the #5 spot in the rotation. He just doesn't have the stuff, or track record in the minors, to rank much higher than that.

Ok. That is well thought out. Thanks.

[eb45]

1. DBundy (obviously)

2. Gausman (obviously)

3. Schoop (obviously)

4. Delmonico (compare his year to Hoes and Avery at the same age/level)

5. ERodriguez (still on potential, needs more Ks though)

6. Hoes (still a 4th OF unless power shows up)

7. Marin (speed, defense, quick bat, excellent pitch recognition)

8. Wright (power sinker, good slider, developing change, bullpen arm at least)

9. SJohnson (ceiling can't approach anyone above him, but only Bundy/Gausman have his floor)

10. Davies (deeper arsenal, better results than EdRod but frame/velo might hold him back)

11. Kline (wasn't super impressed when I saw him, not sure if he has a real out pitch, but they're changing his mechanics, and draft pedigree gets him here)

12. Kelly (can't ignore his bat, Ryan Adams 2.0?)

13. Wilson (peripherals are great, but does he have the stuff to keep them up?)

14. Walker (his bat seems real, but it's only half a season and he was hurt for a lot of it)

15. TBerry (drop in walks is cool, but going to need to start seeing results)

16. Hader (phenomenal in short stints, could climb massively if 2013 goes well)

17. Bernadina (cut down on his load time, still struggles with breaking pitches but can handle a fastball as well as anyone)

18. Urrutia (because I trust Fred Ferreira)

19. Avery (can't see him ever hitting in the bigs)

20. Pomeranz (safe bet for middle relief, but probably not more than that)

21. Webb (took the quantum leap we've been waiting for in 2012, needs to prove it's not a fluke)

22. Welty (good year, but was hurt, with a full season of .868 OPS at Bowie he's higher up)

23. BBundy (a good comeback from injury could have him back up way higher)

24. Ohlman (finally started hitting... in his third year at Delmarva)

25. THoward (deep arsenal, left handed, not too old for his level)

26. Davis (really, really needs to start hitting)

27. RBerry (probably a reliever at this point, but still quite possibly future MLer)

28. DJones (need some scouting reports to see if he's actually got a shot at starting long-term, if he's a reliever he's okay, not great)

29. Clark (I don't know how but he's on the 40-man after a great 2012 so he belongs here)

30. Boss (real power, great game instincts, okay speed)

[waroriole]

Where would you guys put Britton, Matusz, and Arrieta if they were eligible?

[eb45]

Where would you guys put Britton, Matusz, and Arrieta if they were eligible?

4-5-6, in some order. Probably Arrieta, Matusz, Britton.

[waroriole]

4-5-6, in some order. Probably Arrieta, Matusz, Britton.

I think I would say Britton at 3 (ahead of Schoop), Matusz at 5, and Arrieta at 7, behind Johnson.

[glenn__davis]

Using the Tony "which player would I rather have in my system" technique...

1. Bundy

2. Gausman

3. Schoop

4. Rodriguez

5. Delmonico

6. S. Johnson

7. Wright

8. Avery

9. Hoes

10. Marin

11. Pomeranz

12. T. Wilson

13. Ty Kelly

14. Davies

15. Hader

16. Bridwell

17. Schrader

18. Glynn Davis

19. T. Berry

20. Kline

21. B. Bundy

22. Z. Clark

23. Bernadina

24. Jones

25. Veloz

26. Guzman

27. Reuttiger

28. Jones

29. B. Parry

30. Rutledge

[Crazysilver03]

Interesting that Townsend is on no ones list. Neither is Mahoney. I would think both would factor in to at least the top 30.

[Oldorioles]

Using the Tony "which player would I rather have in my system" technique...

1. Bundy

2. Gausman

3. Schoop

4. Rodriguez

5. Delmonico

6. S. Johnson

7. Wright

8. Avery

9. Hoes

10. Marin

11. Pomeranz

12. T. Wilson

13. Ty Kelly

14. Davies

15. Hader

16. Bridwell

17. Schrader

18. Glynn Davis

19. T. Berry

20. Kline

21. B. Bundy

22. Z. Clark

23. Bernadina

24. Jones

25. Veloz

26. Guzman

27. Reuttiger

28. Jones

29. B. Parry

30. Rutledge

You have Jones down twice (#28 and #24)

[glenn__davis]

You have Jones down twice (#28 and #24)

I think he's that good.

Thanks for the pick-up. The 2nd Jones should be Ollie Drake.

[glenn__davis]

Interesting that Townsend is on no ones list. Neither is Mahoney. I would think both would factor in to at least the top 30.

To be honest, I forgot about Townsend. However, I do not think he would be on my list. Just can't stay healthy and the discipline hasn't been there so far.

[Enjoy Terror]

Given his age, health, discipline, and (from what I understand) defense... he's become less of a prospect than Waring.

First and foremost, he needs to play a full season. Him and Mummey.

[Traveler]

I'm not sure how you classify Townsend anymore, but he will be an interesting decision for the O's, someone will pick him up if they only AA protect him.

[skanar]

Given his age, health, discipline, and (from what I understand) defense... he's become less of a prospect than Waring.

First and foremost, he needs to play a full season. Him and Mummey.

Disagree on the Waring line, but agree in general with the sentiment. Other O's with injury concerns include Bobby Bundy (surgery for bone spurs) and Dan Klein (multiple surgeries, rehab setbacks, news is 100% bad at this point).

[Crazysilver03]

This was done before RZ's list:

 1. Bundy	2702. Gausman	2613. Schoop	2524. Delmonico	2365. Erod	      2296. Hoes	       2277. Avery	1938. Wright	1919. Sjohnson	18210. Wilson	16811. Marin	14612. Hader	13513. Kline	11114. Davies	10715. Urrutia	9316. Walker	8617. Pomeranz	8418. Kelly	7719. T Berry	6720. Webb	6121. Djones	6021. Bernadina	6023. Bbundy	5923. Gdavis	5925. Thoward	5226. Belfiore	5127. Welty	4628. Boss	4429. Parry	3730. Klein	3330.Ohlman	3332. Pettit	2933. Bridwell	2734. Schrader	2435. Drake	2336. Veloz	1437. Ruetigger	1438. Clark	1439. Joseph	1340. A Baker	941. Esposito	842. Rutledge	843. Widlansky	644. Mummey	545. McCracken	446. Rberry	447. Waring	348. Vader	149. Mahoney	049. Exposito 	049. Townsend 	0

The top 20 names look about right, maybe a little juggling in between.

[NJorioles]

I don't understand the lack of love for Waring? How can a guy who hits over 20 HRs every year not be on a top 30 list? Beside a rough month patch, his BA and OPS at AAA were very good. He can play either corner spot effectively.