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Add in the fact that Turgeon hasn't won anything yet (1 season I know). The man can sure recruit but college basketball has plenty of programs that have 5 star recruits that don't advance in the tourney. I'm sure rooting for him but I'm holding off on the pure love just a bit longer.

Turgeon actually doesn't have a reputation as a great recruiter, but he does have reputation as a great coach. Very similar to Williams in that regard.

One thing I think I've been really impressed with with Turgeon is his eye for talent. He was high on guys like Seth Allen and Damonte Dodd and Jake Layman before anyone. Now we don't know the careers of those guys will end up, but certainly their stock has risen since they committed to MD, and not just because they did commit to MD. I think that's the type of thing you'll see with Turgeon. I still don't expect a lot of 5-stars to make their way to CP, but I think you'll see guys who are good that Turgeon knew were good before a lot of other people.

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My whole point here is that I don't think that every thread needs to be a rehashing of Gary's successes and failures, no matter what your opinion is. Everyone pretty much knows everyone else's opinion on this. There's nothing left to talk about. Let the past be the past and move the heck on.

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I saw a lot of games at Cole and the Comcast Center with Gary leading the way. There were some great moments and there were some really down moments. It became painful at times watching Duke and Carolina show up for home games and see players who should have already been playing in the NBA on their teams while Gary brought in guys that should have been at Towson or Loyola. I have not been one to knock GW frequently on here in the past and don't intend to start now. Yes! I have knocked him a few times. Tony is telling it like it is and was and now it's time to sit back and enjoy the current and future Terp floor shows. MT will soon have the Terps back in the top 20 and maybe top 10 on a regular basis.

I completely agree. The one thing we all should agree on is that the future is very bright at Maryland once again and I for one am going to enjoy and support it!

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Recruiting wise, Turgeon and his staff have already proven to be a force in the market for highly ranked players (Shaq and serious consideration from the twins), under-the-radar guys (Layman, Dodd, Allen), international talent (Len who also could fall in that under-the-radar group), local talent (Peters and convincing Faust to stay committed), and solid transfers (Wells, Smotrycz who I'm excited about, and Aronhalt).

You can talk about how he didn't close the deal with the Harrison twins but he followed it up by closing the deal with a top 50 player in Peters who could have easily felt slanted after being put on the backburner.

I know I'm not saying anything mind blowing and that we need to see how these players pan out but damn. Step back and think about the variety of talent he has acquired. That is very exciting and says something about Turgeon and his staff.

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OK--------AFTER THE NATTY (hope you all realize this is a far more difficult accomplishment than winning a super bowl or a word series)

GW had more than a few 5 and 4 star recruits refused admittance ---called the Yow factor #1

GW had a lower budget for his assistants totaling less for 2 years than JUST Hill gets for 1 year. Yow # 2

Faust,Howard, padgett belonged to GW---Cleare was 100% committing to GW and Len was a strong GW lean. He also had a very strong SF- Anderson who ended with UVA after GW left. Wells was on another team and not available.

I love Allen and Mitchell but they are not the difference makers you all use to put down GW.

One last second shot by Michigan state 18 months ago and an ill-advised early departure by Jordan Williams-history would look remarkably different.

And YES I AM prejudiced- not only as a contemporary of GW and a past acquaintance as well, but also a philosophical partner as well------------runners, advisers and agents for 17 year old kids -----I DO NOT WANT TO BEG---THAT'S BEG---A 17 YEAR OLD TO GO TO MY SCHOOL ---------many do not understand that the shoe company that sponsers a particular AAU team has a tremendous influence on where a kid goes -(promise of future endorsements). MARYLAND was not a Nike school for years----

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O BY THE WAY-----ONLY ONE----THAT IS ONLY ONE---TEAM EVER WON A NATTY WITHOUT A SINGLE MCDONALDS HIGH SCHOOL ALL-AMERICAN PLAYER ON THAT CHAMPIONSHIP TEAM-----ONLY ONE ---THAT COACH WAS GARY WILLIAMS--

SEEMS RECRUITING WAS NEVER----NEVER ---HIS SECRET FOR SUCCESS-

Kind of takes the wind out of ---he just coasted at the end.

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O BY THE WAY-----ONLY ONE----THAT IS ONLY ONE---TEAM EVER WON A NATTY WITHOUT A SINGLE MCDONALDS HIGH SCHOOL ALL-AMERICAN PLAYER ON THAT CHAMPIONSHIP TEAM-----ONLY ONE ---THAT COACH WAS GARY WILLIAMS--

SEEMS RECRUITING WAS NEVER----NEVER ---HIS SECRET FOR SUCCESS-

Kind of takes the wind out of ---he just coasted at the end.

This argument is a tad overstated. Are you saying that if Gordon Hayward's shot at the buzzer in the 2010 NCAA Championship was three inches shorter that Gary Williams would be a demonstrably lesser coach? Or if Chris Wilcox (top 25 recruit) had gotten a few more votes to make the 2000 McDonald's AA roster that Maryland's win would be less enjoyable? Of course not. It is a great marketing tool for McDonald's and something for Maryland and Gary fans to crow about but it isn't the be all end all. It will end some day.

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With the players that are on the team now plus the additions of Peters, Dodd and Smotrycz the Terps are set up for a nice little run over the next 3 years. But this years team has the higher ceiling because of Len. However in two years we will be loaded with seniors and juniors assuming Wells doesn't leave early. I don't care if they are Gary's guys or Turg's guys I just like the fact that we are going to be a top 15-20 team for the next couple of years. If the outside shooting improves and is more consistent this team could be scary good. I think the 2014-15 team could be legit title contenders with this lineup

C: Cleare Jr. Dodd Soph.

PF: Mitchell Jr. Smotrycz Sr.

SF: Wells Sr. Leyman Jr.

SG: Faust Sr. Peters Soph

PG: Allen Jr.

Who needs the Harrison twins? That team is going to have size, experience and fire power of the bench. With experience off the bench as well.

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O BY THE WAY-----ONLY ONE----THAT IS ONLY ONE---TEAM EVER WON A NATTY WITHOUT A SINGLE MCDONALDS HIGH SCHOOL ALL-AMERICAN PLAYER ON THAT CHAMPIONSHIP TEAM-----ONLY ONE ---THAT COACH WAS GARY WILLIAMS--

SEEMS RECRUITING WAS NEVER----NEVER ---HIS SECRET FOR SUCCESS-

Kind of takes the wind out of ---he just coasted at the end.

This argument is a tad overstated. Are you saying that if Gordon Hayward's shot at the buzzer in the 2010 NCAA Championship was three inches shorter that Gary Williams would be a demonstrably lesser coach? Or if Chris Wilcox (top 25 recruit) had gotten a few more votes to make the 2000 McDonald's AA roster that Maryland's win would be less enjoyable? Of course not. It is a great marketing tool for McDonald's and something for Maryland and Gary fans to crow about but it isn't the be all end all. It will end some day.

Danny Miller would've been on that team if he hadn't transferred to play for Brey.

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Danny Miller would've been on that team if he hadn't transferred to play for Brey.

But he DID transfer--so I don't understand your point.

I love me some GW---but that's the past---let TURG WIN--but let GW out of it--thats NOW.

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