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Lot of interest in Orioles young pitching. Has picked up last two days


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Since when is Steve Pearce a "capable" 1B? You mean the same guy we let go mid season last year? That's just great..

I don't want to see Steve Pearce in the lineup on a regular basis, but if everything else unfortunately plays out so it ends up that way, it's not the end of the world. I know only a few people on here are willing to hear it, but a Betemit-Pearce platoon, is capable of putting up an .780 to .800 OPS with Betemit starting against righties and Pearce against lefties. All for about 2.5 million dollars too. Though obviously neither should be playing the field unless it's an emergency so they'd have to be penciled in at DH.

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Why does everybody assume people are interested in just Tillman, BMat, Jake, and ZB? It could be teams are interested in Chen, MG, and Hammel. I don't think DD wants to move any of the last three, or maybe in the right situation he would. The last three are relatively young.

I understand peoples frustrations, but let's at least see how the rest of the meetings and off season pans out. I think this team needs some work to improve upon last year, but there is still time.

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And having the best scouting and development team in the business. The Orioles had a 14 year-long chance to match that and they failed somewhat miserably. That's neither here nor there, though. Signing a bunch of randoms without any significant trades or free agent signings (not just top shelf guys, even above average players like a Swisher) is not under any circumstances sustainable if you're trying to build a perennial contender. Even the small market Rays (actual small market, not pretend small market like we are) mixed in a few of those.

And dating back to 2000, the A's, Rays, and Twins have a combined 0 World Series wins and 1 World Series appearance, so clearly that approach did not/does not work.

So what's your point? Like it or not he Os are working within a limited budget. You'd really like to sign guys like Victorino/Gomes/Napoli to the types of deals they got within the constraints of that budget? We won 93 games last year and still have guys with development room. Many of the contributors came from trades that we made. We've also made drastic changes in scouting and development. Of course they are looking to make a trade to try and improve the team. That's been the main focus. Hopefully that will happen, but considering the FA market maybe teams are valuing ther guys to high. We'll just have to wait it out.

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My point is that expecting this whole "masquerade around like we can't afford anyone over $3 million a year" approach to be sustainable is foolish and it's only a matter of time before that fact becomes evident, and it'll probably be sooner rather than later.

Yeah, I'm not going to get mired down in another Angelos can spend more money tirade. We have a pretty fair idea of what the budget constraints are on the team and you're seeing what mid-level free agents are going for just as well as I am.

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Back to the point of the original post. I'm sure there is lots of interest in the cavalry. Some teams want to trade for Arrieta - and Bundy. Other teams want to trade for Britton - and Gausman. A few want to trade for Tillman - and Machado. Unfortunately, no one is convinced that any of the cav are sure things anymore. And, you don't get someone like Hosmer or Butler or Myers for less than a sure thing (or at least as sure as any prospect gets).

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Well I don't get Buck either personally. How in the hell is Tillman not a lock for our rotation if not traded. The same old Orioles IMO ...talking in circles and sounding ridiculous. Personally I'm not hat concerned that nothing has happened yet. But Sheesh the stuff our guys are saying makes them look incompetent.

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And I'm telling you that only spending money on a bunch of random nobodies and not making any significant trades = several more losing seasons than winning seasons. Be prepared.

It may very well be that our record will decline next year, but last year was also the first in several where we did not commit money to mid level free agents and we did quite well. I'm hoping we can sign McLouth, but I like the fexibility of not being locked in to some of these underpeforming and expensive mid-tier free agents. I'll look for the development of the younger players on our ML roster and some of the nice ones in the minors this year and be hopeful we can develop and acquire more young players to help us in the longer term.

In the mean time, lets hope DD can pull off a trade to help improve the team in addtion to adding some nice depth for us like he did last year.

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How in the hell is Tillman not a lock for our rotation if not traded. The same old Orioles IMO ...talking in circles and sounding ridiculous.

He didn't say Tillman was a lock for the rotation for the same reason he didn't say Machado was a lock to start at third base. They both clearly are, but what good does it do to tell them that today? Make them work for it.

If you're going to insult Buck, at least have a real reason for it.

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He didn't say Tillman was a lock for the rotation for the same reason he didn't say Machado was a lock to start at third base. They both clearly are, but what good does it do to tell them that today? Make them work for it.

If you're going to insult Buck, at least have a real reason for it.

Buck says when he got to Baltimore, there was a bit of a sense of entitlement.

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