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SteveA Hangout Grand Counsel

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Here was what I was referencing.

@CamdenDepot

At first, Reynolds was -8 runs fielding in 957 innings. Davis was +4 in 343 innings. #range #SSS

Does that stat take into account taking throws from other infielders? Because that is where I feel Reynolds really excelled, and IMO that is as important for a firstbaseman as fielding range is.

If it doesn't take that skill into account, than it is an interesting stat but is not nearly as pertinent to deciding the value of a first baseman, IMO.

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byrdz Hangout Veteran Council

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Reynolds' defense simply wasn't as good as people made it out to be. He had very little range, and he made other plays look more difficult than they really were, which is why to the naked eye they appeared to be much more impressive.

Agreed, kinda reminds me of Jeter a bit in that way.

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Orange_Crush Major Leaguer Cup of Coffee

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Reynolds' defense simply wasn't as good as people made it out to be. He had very little range, and he made other plays look more difficult than they really were, which is why to the naked eye they appeared to be much more impressive.

Kinda sounds like jomes in Center :laughlol:

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I need to contact my bookie, I would surely take the bet that, that's not likely.

You think it's that unrealistic for him to believe that he can match or exceed the production of Reynolds, who has averaged a .770ish OPS over the last 3 years? Or is his .215ish AVG over that period just that impossible to match?

Oh. You must be talking about the over-blown Reimold injury myth that still exists despite the accessibility of Minor League stats.

There's no guarantee that Reimold will out-perform Reynolds but let's not exaggerate Mark's modest offensive contributions.

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And just a perfectly tangential question... Do some of Manny's throws approach 100 mph? Anyone?

I would highly doubt it. As an amateur he was around 90-1 mph in the infield, and that is showcase setting where you can really step into it. Carlos Correa was the highest clocked infield arm I've seen at amateur level -- 96-97 mph. Angels prospect Kaleb Cowart (3b) hit 101 from right field.

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You think it's that unrealistic for him to believe that he can match or exceed the production of Reynolds, who has averaged a .770ish OPS over the last 3 years? Or is his .215ish AVG over that period just that impossible to match?

Oh. You must be talking about the over-blown Reimold injury myth that still exists despite the accessibility of Minor League stats.

There's no guarantee that Reimold will out-perform Reynolds but let's not exaggerate Mark's modest offensive contributions.

While I would agree that people sometimes exaggerate the number of injuries Reimold has had in the past, for me, I'd be worried about how strongly he will come back from this last injury even if he'd never been injured prior to 2012. Backs are very tricky things, and you just never know how a player will bounce back after spinal surgery.

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While I would agree that people sometimes exaggerate the number of injuries Reimold has had in the past, for me, I'd be worried about how strongly he will come back from this last injury even if he'd never been injured prior to 2012. Backs are very tricky things, and you just never know how a player will bounce back after spinal surgery.

This is true. But it sounds like he's in good shape at this point, and he's young enough to have a good chance at coming back strong.

I'm cautiously optimistic.

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You think it's that unrealistic for him to believe that he can match or exceed the production of Reynolds, who has averaged a .770ish OPS over the last 3 years? Or is his .215ish AVG over that period just that impossible to match?

Oh. You must be talking about the over-blown Reimold injury myth that still exists despite the accessibility of Minor League stats.

There's no guarantee that Reimold will out-perform Reynolds but let's not exaggerate Mark's modest offensive contributions.

Mark's timely hits will be missed most, but I do think IF (health always a big if) Reimold is healthy a whole season I agree it is not unrealistic for him to match or exceed Mark's 2012 offensive output.

-Don

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