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skanar Major Leaguer Cup of Coffee

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They've gotta change something. Perhaps the strongest HOF class since the 1st one, and not one guy elected?

Also, isn't this a disaster for Cooperstown, NY, and the HOF itself? How much of their annual revenue comes from the induction festivities?

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Absolutely and purely disgraceful on the part of the voters. I can understand not voting for someone who was found to have cheated, tried to cheat, or for whom the evidence (Mitchell Report) suggests that they did cheat or did something illegal. However, to rob others based on fabrication, delusional theories, complete hearsay, and pure imagination, is a slap in the face to the very integrity of the game that these self-righteous voters claim to be operating in the name of in the first place. Not voting for Bonds or Clemens, I can understand. But not voting for Craig Biggio, and others, solely because of association, is disgraceful.

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Absolutely and purely disgraceful on the part of the voters. I can understand not voting for someone who was found to have cheated, tried to cheat, or for whom the evidence (Mitchell Report) suggests that they did cheat or did something illegal. However, to rob others based on fabrication, delusional theories, complete hearsay, and pure imagination, is a slap in the face to the very integrity of the game that these self-righteous voters claim to be operating in the name of in the first place. Not voting for Bonds or Clemens, I can understand. But not voting for Craig Biggio, and others, solely because of association, is disgraceful.

Biggio got a lot of votes. I think he's more of a "not a first ballot hall of famer" victim this year. I think he'll get in next year. I hate that Morris didn't get in this year...partially due to the blank ballots being submitted.

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Absolutely and purely disgraceful on the part of the voters. I can understand not voting for someone who was found to have cheated, tried to cheat, or for whom the evidence (Mitchell Report) suggests that they did cheat or did something illegal. However, to rob others based on fabrication, delusional theories, complete hearsay, and pure imagination, is a slap in the face to the very integrity of the game that these self-righteous voters claim to be operating in the name of in the first place. Not voting for Bonds or Clemens, I can understand. But not voting for Craig Biggio, and others, solely because of association, is disgraceful.

Amber asked a player of the era if they thought 70 percent of his peers had used PEDs. She was told that her guess was naively low.

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Biggio got a lot of votes. I think he's more of a "not a first ballot hall of famer" victim this year. I think he'll get in next year. I hate that Morris didn't get in this year...partially due to the blank ballots being submitted.

Biggio did get a lot of votes, but I've no doubt the reason he didn't get enough was because of the very reasons I stated, the dreaded guilt by association, and the "era" in which he played.

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Biggio got a lot of votes. I think he's more of a "not a first ballot hall of famer" victim this year. I think he'll get in next year. I hate that Morris didn't get in this year...partially due to the blank ballots being submitted.

Man I hate that "first ballot stuff." Biggio deserves to be there, so what difference does it make if its a first time vote or not? Its these baseball writers trying to be more powerful than they should be, and its ridiculous. Same with Cal not getting votes because "No one should get 100% votes." WTF is that?

To me, Morris, Biggio, and Piazza all should have been in this year.

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Biggio did get a lot of votes, but I've no doubt the reason he didn't get enough was because of the very reasons I stated, the dreaded guilt by association, and the "era" in which he played.

That and sportswriters are babies. The guys on mlb radio were talking about the need to add voters from other sources. I can think of at least 5 guys on here that I'd give a vote that I'm pretty sure would be more professional about the whole process.

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Man I hate that "first ballot stuff." Biggio deserves to be there, so what difference does it make if its a first time vote or not? Its these baseball writers trying to be more powerful than they should be, and its ridiculous. Same with Cal not getting votes because "No one should get 100% votes." WTF is that?

To me, Morris, Biggio, and Piazza all should have been in this year.

100% with you on that. I've never understood it...it's not like they have a separate room with first ballot guys at Cooperstown.

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I wonder how many blank ballots were submitted, and if eliminating them would have pushed anyone over 75% or 5%.

Not sure. I think they said that Biggio was 39 votes short. Might have made the difference for Morris too. That's inexcusable for the writers...

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Man I hate that "first ballot stuff." Biggio deserves to be there, so what difference does it make if its a first time vote or not? Its these baseball writers trying to be more powerful than they should be, and its ridiculous. Same with Cal not getting votes because "No one should get 100% votes." WTF is that?

To me, Morris, Biggio, and Piazza all should have been in this year.

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Not until Dave Stieb gets in!

Morris would instantly replace Rice as the biggest reach by the voters in my lifetime.

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