Are the Reds Backing Out ?

[NoVaO]

Everybody talking about the need to get back a Pitcher in a Bedard deal has me baffled. The addition of Patton and Albers to Penn, Olson, Liz and company leaves us very deep in pitching prospects. Additional deals like the proposed Roberts to the Cubs trade, makes us even deeper. We need the best players we can get. But, position players are a glaring weakness right now. I'd take Jones, Clement and Triunfel immediately. That would be a great deal for us IMO.

I personally like Morrow because his upside in much better than the guys you mention above. But I agree a pitcher isn't necessary.

What I would like to do is trade one of the many guys you mentioned in addition to Bedard and get back a pitcher that is further off, but has higher upside (Tillman, for example).

[JTrea81]

Everybody talking about the need to get back a Pitcher in a Bedard deal has me baffled. The addition of Patton and Albers to Penn, Olson, Liz and company leaves us very deep in pitching prospects. Additional deals like the proposed Roberts to the Cubs trade, makes us even deeper. We need the best players we can get. But, position players are a glaring weakness right now. I'd take Jones, Clement and Triunfel immediately. That would be a great deal for us IMO.

Reading several Mariners forums, I get the sense that Triunfel is pretty untouchable for them. Considering some think he can be better than Tejada, that's saying something. Morrow seems to be a sticking point, but we don't need him to be in the deal. Tillman and Butler are pretty good pitching prospects. Both probably project to be #2's or #3's. It's always nice to get pitching in trades because it seems to be a valuable commodity because you can never have enough, so I would want one of these guys back.

[markakis4pres]

Everybody talking about the need to get back a Pitcher in a Bedard deal has me baffled. The addition of Patton and Albers to Penn, Olson, Liz and company leaves us very deep in pitching prospects. Additional deals like the proposed Roberts to the Cubs trade, makes us even deeper. We need the best players we can get. But, position players are a glaring weakness right now. I'd take Jones, Clement and Triunfel immediately. That would be a great deal for us IMO.

I see what your saying, but I just dont see Liz, Olson, or Albers being anything more than a 4-5. I know it might be too early to tell, but Id go after Morrow.

Also, Id rather have Morrow over Clement is becuase we already have Weiters. But, if Clement can be flipped I would take Clement. Either deal works for me, but I prefer Morrow.