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Jake Arrieta Today, 2013

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JAKE ARRIETA O (vs. DODGERS, 4/21)

IP:. 4 - Plus

H:o 2

R:O 5

BB: 5 *

SO: 6

Pitches: 91 (50 Strikes, 41 Balls)

2013 ERA: 6.63

* Arrieta also had 1 hit batsman.

Man I hope Buck has seen enough pitching lines like this to send him down.

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Man I hope Buck has seen enough pitching lines like this to send him down.

He HATES having to use his bullpen for 4+ innings like this. And EVERY time Jake pitches, you're looking at at least 4 innings by the bullpen.

I would be surprised if Arrieta starts another game for the Orioles this season. And very angry.

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Arrieta = AJ Burnett. He will tantalize you with the stuff and occassional greatness, but in the end you are better of trading him to someone who loves his upside and thinks they will be able to fix him. I am just worried it is too late for that.

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Perhaps he could make the transition to the BP like Brian Matusz. The reality is that not every young talented pitcher is starter material for the major leagues. It takes a special kind of pitcher to go three times through a major-league lineup, something that may not be possible to assess at the lower levels.

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Arrieta = AJ Burnett. He will tantalize you with the stuff and occassional greatness, but in the end you are better of trading him to someone who loves his upside and thinks they will be able to fix him. I am just worried it is too late for that.

I would be thrilled if Arrieta were A.J. Burnett. I think you're not giving Burnett enough credit.

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I would be thrilled if Arrieta were A.J. Burnett. I think you're not giving Burnett enough credit.

Agreed but get the gist of what he poster was saying.

Throughout the years I have seen some Jekyll and Hyde type pitcher but never one with the extremes that Jake goes through.

Personally I would send him down to AAA and perhaps consider moving him into the pen.

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Jake is one of the dumber pitchers I've ever watched. I don't know how else to say it. He does this stuff to himself. He is in love with his stuff like a lot of other people and just forgets about who he is pitching to, the situation he is pitching in, the score, the relative competence / power of the batter, etc... He constantly tries to execute the perfect pitch and I believe his is strikeout happy. I'm not sure there is a "light" that can come on with this guy. I honestly think he is obsessed with himself. The constant hat and uniform tugs are part OCD but also part "I have to look perfect for the cameras" IMHO.

The awful thing is that his stuff is phenomenal, just ridiculous at times, so he is likely to have a lot of good games in his career despite himself so trading him just feels like selling low and waiting for pay for it later. I'd keep trying him out, but if he has 5 good starts in a row or so, I'd be trading him to the NL.

I have been hearing this about him since he was in high A ball.

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Jake is one of the dumber pitchers I've ever watched. I don't know how else to say it. He does this stuff to himself. He is in love with his stuff like a lot of other people and just forgets about who he is pitching to, the situation he is pitching in, the score, the relative competence / power of the batter, etc... He constantly tries to execute the perfect pitch and I believe his is strikeout happy. I'm not sure there is a "light" that can come on with this guy. I honestly think he is obsessed with himself. The constant hat and uniform tugs are part OCD but also part "I have to look perfect for the cameras" IMHO.

The awful thing is that his stuff is phenomenal, just ridiculous at times, so he is likely to have a lot of good games in his career despite himself so trading him just feels like selling low and waiting for pay for it later. I'd keep trying him out, but if he has 5 good starts in a row or so, I'd be trading him to the NL.

I dont know about him being obsessed with himself. Conversations with him seem to indicate he gets that he is far from perfect

That said maybe your on to something with the OCD thing/trying to be perfect. It just feels like when men get on base he stops pitching the way he was and becomes all helter skelter. Could be an indication he is trying to hard to make the perfect pitch, get the k and not relying on his stuff and defense to help him out.

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