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4/2 - 6.0 IP, 3 R, 3 ER (Hammel)

4/3 - 5.2 IP, 2 R, 2 ER (Chen)

4/4 - 6.1 IP, 2 R, 2 ER (Gonzalez)

4/5 - 5.0 IP, 5 R, 5 ER (Arrieta)

4/6 - 3.2 IP, 5 R, 5 ER (Tillman)

4/7 - 6.2 IP, 4 R, 4 ER (Hammel)

4/8 - 6.1 IP, 3 R, 3 ER (Chen)

4/10 - 5.0 IP, 3 R, 3 ER (Arrieta)

4/11 - 5.1 IP, 2 R, 2 ER (Tillman)

4/12 - 6.0 IP, 3 R, 2 ER (Gonzalez)

4/13 - 6.0 IP, 3 R, 2 ER (Hammel)

4/14 - 6.0 IP, 3 R, 3 ER (Chen)

Totals - 68 IP, 38 R, 36 ER -- 4.76 ERA, 5.75 IP/start

It's not really awful, but not exactly setting the world on fire. We definitely need to step it it a notch if we want to contend this year.

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glenn__davis Hangout Grand Counsel

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Like I mentioned in the other thread, I sort of feel like the guys just need to get into a bit of a groove.

We'll never know the answer, but I don't think Buck's strategy of hiding the guys from MLB pitching did them any favors. I was able to see two of Hammel's starts, and he looks OK but still just a little rusty.

Gonzalez had the long break between starts. Tilllman obviously is just getting into form. Arrieta is Arrieta.

Just feel like the top 4 need to get in and settled and they'll be OK.

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Well they've been fairly consistent in giving at least 6 innings. Granted, 7 would be even better and where you hope most of them will be, especially your top 2. Gonzalez has given up a few more walks than is desirable, but he'll get it together. Am I alone in thinking that Hammel seems to be overthrowing? In the Twins game in the inning leading up to the Jones drop, he just seemed to be flailing and throwing, and seemed really antsy on the mound. I don't recall him doing that last year, but maybe he was and I just didn't see it.

Right now they need to work on keeping the pitch counts down during the course of the game, and if they can do that we'll start getting more 7 inning performances and save the pen. Overall the staff has kept the walks down, but they're also not striking many guys out. Not that I think this is that kind of staff, but last year they were 6th in the league in K's and that was with all of the fluctuations and changes.

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4/2 - 6.0 IP, 3 R, 3 ER (Hammel)

4/3 - 5.2 IP, 2 R, 2 ER (Chen)

4/4 - 6.1 IP, 2 R, 2 ER (Gonzalez)

4/5 - 5.0 IP, 5 R, 5 ER (Arrieta)

4/6 - 3.2 IP, 5 R, 5 ER (Tillman)

4/7 - 6.2 IP, 4 R, 4 ER (Hammel)

4/8 - 6.1 IP, 3 R, 3 ER (Chen)

4/10 - 5.0 IP, 3 R, 3 ER (Arrieta)

4/11 - 5.1 IP, 2 R, 2 ER (Tillman)

4/12 - 6.0 IP, 3 R, 2 ER (Gonzalez)

4/13 - 6.0 IP, 3 R, 2 ER (Hammel)

4/14 - 6.0 IP, 3 R, 3 ER (Chen)

Totals - 68 IP, 38 R, 36 ER -- 4.76 ERA, 5.75 IP/start

It's not really awful, but not exactly setting the world on fire. We definitely need to step it it a notch if we want to contend this year.

That's the thing. We really haven't had one fantastic outing so far. You figure at this point, someone would have just been on their game, but for the most part, every start has kept us in ball games but not dominated. The Orioles offense has scored 4.67 runs per game good for 5th in the league. That's keeping us in game but combined with our "uninspiring" rotation work, it explains why we are 6-6. We really miss not having an Ace. Hammel is pitching more like a 4th or 5th starter this year and we were counting on him stepping up.

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Two times this morning....you are in my head sir!

I agree I think this homestand is a good oppurtunity for the SPs to get in a nice groove. The weather could also be a nice perk to get things going. Arrieta and Tillman will turn it up a notch this week.

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We're winning with the exact same formula as last year... perhaps because this team is largely the same. I don't think the SP is going to be that much better.

I think our defense has cost us a few games. We could have easily won every series.

The calls for Gausman are going to get louder over the next few months.

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Does anyone feel the weather has been a big factor in the performances so far?

Boston and NY were just awful weather wise.

Same weather for both teams, is how I look at it. Anyway, as I said, it's not like the pitching was bad on this trip -- 2 or 3 ER each game. Just not inspiring.

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That's the thing. We really haven't had one fantastic outing so far. You figure at this point, someone would have just been on their game, but for the most part, every start has kept us in ball games but not dominated. The Orioles offense has scored 4.67 runs per game good for 5th in the league. That's keeping us in game but combined with our "uninspiring" rotation work, it explains why we are 6-6. We really miss not having an Ace. Hammel is pitching more like a 4th or 5th starter this year and we were counting on him stepping up.

This is one of those coincidental times where a brief snapshot of the season matches up to expectations. The O's have five guys you could describe as #3 or #4 starters, and every single start has been a typical #3 or #4 guy start.

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Its early in the season.

Lets be real though, nobody in their right mind expected this starting pitching staff to carry the club. There is no real Ace on this staff. Couple guys you might call #2 or #3 and some you would call a #3 or #4 type starter. No real #1. The O's seem to be banking on Kevin or Dylan being that and its a reasonable approach at this time IMO.

There is room for improvement and I do believe that it will improve some. If the starting pitching can be steady and the bats and bullpen can do what they have to this point I expect this team to remain competitive and continue to improve.

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This is one of those coincidental times where a brief snapshot of the season matches up to expectations. The O's have five guys you could describe as #3 or #4 starters, and every single start has been a typical #3 or #4 guy start.

Oh without a doubt. We don't have a true #1 or #2 in this rotation though I think we had hoped Hammel could become one when fully healthy. We have a lot of solid middle to back end of the rotation guys and they've pitched like that so far. Still, they all have better games in them, so hopefully one or more will step up soon.

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I agree it's been mediocre. I think Hammel started coming around Saturday. Miggy had one good start, and one bad one. I'm confident in hm. Chen gave us about what we should expect. He's a solid #3.

Tillman and Arrieta really need to step up. Tillman did have some rust to shake off since he missed time in ST.

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