Saunders, The Sheriff & Andino: All 3 Improve This Team

[Il BuonO]

The more I see people call Reynolds "great" defensively at first base, the more I think that people don't know anything about baseball.

All of this. He made easy plays look difficult. And offensively he'll come back to earth although I expect he'll outperform his numbers from last year.

And with the pitching I expect we burn through all of the number five rotation candidates in time to see Gausman sometime after the AS break.

[orioles942]

I don't think that adding those guys really makes Orioles better, problem was Angelo$$ lied after Yankee series to improve the team and didnt make ANY moves. They tied their hopes to rejuvenated Reimold and Roberts (didnt pan out). I would of added Lohse or made play for Kuroda. Then tried to add Morse, that was a no brainer. Lets be real if Davis wasnt blossoming this team is not 15-11, they are more like 12-14 at this point.

[kaerts111]

Hindsight is 20/20 - would have been an interesting team with Reynolds playing second for us. He played ss in college and at one point the D-Backs considered putting him at 2nd base.

Regarding BRob's health issues in the last few seasons, this may have been considered - moving Reynolds at 2nd - and therefore you get Davis playing regularly as well at 1st.

This would have weakened us on the D no doubt - but a wrecking crew lineup at the plate.:scratchchinhmm:

[BohKnowsBmore]

I don't think that adding those guys really makes Orioles better, problem was Angelo$$ lied after Yankee series to improve the team and didnt make ANY moves. They tied their hopes to rejuvenated Reimold and Roberts (didnt pan out). I would of added Lohse or made play for Kuroda. Then tried to add Morse, that was a no brainer. Lets be real if Davis wasnt blossoming this team is not 15-11, they are more like 12-14 at this point.

I find it hard to consider Davis blossoming something to not give credit to buck/the FO for, or use it as a qualifier to the season thus far...

[orioles942]

Davis will slump and not sustain what he has done. The Orioles 1-5 hitters have the best production in baseball and are only 15-11. Thats mainly due to Nate getting on and setting the pace. Bottom line Angelo$$$$ lied and played it cheap this offseason instead of upgrading a just one spot or two. They didnt need to add the best FA's just a few missing peices.

[luismatos4prez]

Hindsight is 20/20 - would have been an interesting team with Reynolds playing second for us.

That is such a ridiculous and horrible idea I don't even know where to start.

[luismatos4prez]

I find it hard to consider Davis blossoming something to not give credit to buck/the FO for, or use it as a qualifier to the season thus far...

The team talked all offseason about how it was gambling on Davis becoming our franchise 1B. That was dismissed as a ridiculous idea by DD's critics.

Then, when Davis starts playing like a franchise 1B, it's dismissed as something unexpected that the FO couldn't possibly have foreseen.

Logic.

[luismatos4prez]

Davis will slump and not sustain what he has done. The Orioles 1-5 hitters have the best production in baseball and are only 15-11. Thats mainly due to Nate getting on and setting the pace. Bottom line Angelo$$$$ lied and played it cheap this offseason instead of upgrading a just one spot or two. They didnt need to add the best FA's just a few missing peices.

In one sentence, you mention how the offense is mainly succeeding due to Nate McLouth getting on and setting the pace.

In the next, you complain about how the team didn't upgrade at any spots over the offseason.

See if you can spot the contradiction.

[sevastras]

Davis will slump and not sustain what he has done. The Orioles 1-5 hitters have the best production in baseball and are only 15-11. Thats mainly due to Nate getting on and setting the pace. Bottom line Angelo$$$$ lied and played it cheap this offseason instead of upgrading a just one spot or two. They didnt need to add the best FA's just a few missing peices.

Davis will not slump. We saw his slump last week.

Why come we no sign Hamilton?

I knew this thread was coming tonight. I actually was going to have a heart attack if I came on the boards and this thread wasn't here. Saunders had 1 good game this year and it happened to be against us. No big deal. What we should be talking about is how our starters are giving us 5 great innings and then the wheels fall off.

[crissfan172]

I don't think that adding those guys really makes Orioles better, problem was Angelo$$ lied after Yankee series to improve the team and didnt make ANY moves. They tied their hopes to rejuvenated Reimold and Roberts (didnt pan out). I would of added Lohse or made play for Kuroda. Then tried to add Morse, that was a no brainer. Lets be real if Davis wasnt blossoming this team is not 15-11, they are more like 12-14 at this point.

Davis will slump and not sustain what he has done. The Orioles 1-5 hitters have the best production in baseball and are only 15-11. Thats mainly due to Nate getting on and setting the pace. Bottom line Angelo$$$$ lied and played it cheap this offseason instead of upgrading a just one spot or two. They didnt need to add the best FA's just a few missing peices.

So just to clarify, Davis' 3 weeks of great play are unsustainable (I mean...yeah...that's pretty obvious), but Roberts and Reimold "didn't pan out" because one is injured and the other hasn't gotten hot yet?

How about we let the season play out before declaring anything?

[Winter]

Oh emmm Gee the orioles lost a game in a 162 game season Lets all act like we miss Andino, lmao get real!

I wonder if the Yankees are saying after that beat down the Astros gave em. "Maybe we should of gave Hamilton 500 million and Grienke 300 million" that seems about right.

[wildcard]

The O's saved $11M by not re-signing Reynolds and Saunders. That is the bottom line and that is the reason they are not with the O's. The O's would have been a $101M club instead of a $90M club.

Reynolds would have cost Pearce his roster spot and Reimold most of his at bats at DH. Mark is likely a 30 HR, 80 RBI guy with an OPS closer to 800 than the 960 he currently has. He would probably have helped the O's but the O's would still be looking for the number 5 slot hitter that neither Wieters nor Reynolds seems to be able to fill.

O's fans would probably not be happy with Saunders so far if he were on the team. $6.5M is not a good bargain for 2-3 with a 5.25 ERA. However Saunders has been better than what the O's have gotten from Arrieta, Stinson and Britton so far.

The difference between Andino and Casilla is so small its not worth discussing.

The bottom line is dollars and that should not surprise anyone.

[Tx Oriole]

I disagree with everything about this post.

Me too.

[russ snyder]

I think that the Orioles made the right call on all three of these players. The bottom line is that the Orioles have several pitchers in their system that will replace Saunders' production. Reynolds is a frustrating player IMO. He's a streaky hitter who never really got into a good groove last season. He failed miserably at third, and I'd take Davis over him at first. The idea of him playing second brings visions of a complete circus to my mind. While Andino did solidify the defense at second base during the stretch last season, I think Casilla is a more than adequate replacement as a utility infielder.

[Frobby]

Andino: .190/.244/.262 in 46 PA, -0.2 rWAR.

Casilla: .241/.267/.310 in 30 PA, +0.2 rWAR.

Casilla is the better defensive player. They're paid the same. The only issue here is whether we should have paid more and made a bigger upgrade, but Casilla is an upgrade.

The other two were let go for budget reasons. They would have improved the team but the team decided that improvement wasn't something they could pay for. We'll see if that was foolish or not.