Saunders, The Sheriff & Andino: All 3 Improve This Team

[atomic]

We are 19 and 13 while playing most of our games on the road. Why are people complaining about people not being on the team? The guys here seen to be doing well.

[glenn__davis]

To add to this. Saunders gave up 7 runs in 5 innings to the Blue Jays today. So Saunders would hold three (of four) of the worst performances by a starter if he were an O. He has a 6.15 ERA and a 1.56 WHIP. And he isn't really eating innings on the year.

On the road, of course.

He's been lights out at Safeco, where he's always excelled, and awful everywhere else.

[Il BuonO]

To add to this. Saunders gave up 7 runs in 5 innings to the Blue Jays today. So Saunders would hold three (of four) of the worst performances by a starter if he were an O. He has a 6.15 ERA and a 1.56 WHIP. And he isn't really eating innings on the year.

Not only that, but does anyone think with all the small parks in the AL East he'd be faring that much better if we had him. It may very well be we caught lightning in a bottle while we had him and DD and Buck were shrewd to survey what we had this year and know we might get good to better production than Saunders can provide for what he was asking. Whether it was a combination of Arrieta, Britton, Johnson, Wada or someone else (Garcia was not yet on the horizon) the 5th starter by committee may have been what they had in mind until they could get to either Bundy or Gausman. And I'm not saying that is the plan. I can only hope things continue to progress for Gausman and Bundy gets healthy.

Now we know that may look like Gausman if he continues to progress and they were probably hoping one of the young guys would stick. No way to know for certain, but Saunders wasn't enough of a certainty with what they considered to be depth at the time.

[Ommaculate]

Why would anyone want Andino? He is awful. Saunders got rocked again today. The only reason he did well against the O's is because he knew the playbook.

Isn't the OP a Nats fan?

[Norfolk orioles]

The playbook ehhh????

Interesting.

[LayzieDES]

The playbook ehhh????

Interesting.

[weams]

The Nationals have a negative run differential. That said, I guess it is ok to root for both teams.

I son't. I don't understand it. But I guess it is ok.

[Rene88]

Mark Reynolds hit his 11th homer today and the Indians are 9-1 in their last 10 games.

[ShaneDawg85]

Mark Reynolds hit his 11th homer today and the Indians are 9-1 in their last 10 games.

Robert Andino still sucks and Joe Saunders can't perform outside of Safeco. None of which are, or have been relevant to the Orioles, or would have mattered tonight.

[Valhalla]

Ugh, by years end it will be seen as one of the worst moves in O's front office history. A guy who single handedly rode us to the playoffs that week in 2012, fighting injuries, doesnt even get a phone call by DD, and has a monster year. I really hope Machado and Wieters take note and hold down tough in negotiations after what we did to Mark. Loyalty has to go both ways.

[Rene88]

I think Flaherty is having better at bats as of late, but if you really think he is better than Andino...not sure what to say to that. The proof is not in the numbers.

I like Garcia and our 5th options, but Saunders is a proven arm who pitched well for us last year. How soon you forget the key wins he had for us down the stretch last year.

[ShaneDawg85]

Ugh, by years end it will be seen as one of the worst moves in O's front office history. A guy who single handedly rode us to the playoffs that week in 2012, fighting injuries, doesnt even get a phone call by DD, and has a monster year. I really hope Machado and Wieters take note and hold down tough in negotiations after what we did to Mark. Loyalty has to go both ways.

You just answered your own question. One week doesn't make up for a season of average at best production and awful defense (don't let the 1st base highlights fool you), nor was it the sole reason for the Orioles making the playoffs in the first place. It really is amazing to me how so many people on here were completely fed up with Reynolds two months into the season, and now all of a sudden he goes somewhere else and some people wish he were still here. If Reimold were producing and if Betemit were healthy, we wouldn't be having this conversation, because that's what this really comes down to. All the other stuff is just icing on the cake of revisionist history that views Mark Reynolds as indispensable and a legitimate difference maker, when for a good chunk of his two years in Baltimore, nobody viewed him as such.

[Rene88]

Shane: people were more fed up not with Reynolds but the fact he was playing 3b. He was a great 1b. So your recount is off.

That is why any couch-GM could have guessed Mark would bounce back strong this year.

I personally thought no way Reimold stays healthy. I can see why they didn't like his free-swinging approach, but who knows.

Regardless I just have no clue why you don't think not resigning him was a huge mistake. Look at the numbers.

[Uli2001]

You just answered your own question. One week doesn't make up for a season of average at best production and awful defense (don't let the 1st base highlights fool you), nor was it the sole reason for the Orioles making the playoffs in the first place. It really is amazing to me how so many people on here were completely fed up with Reynolds two months into the season, and now all of a sudden he goes somewhere else and some people wish he were still here. If Reimold were producing and if Betemit were healthy, we wouldn't be having this conversation, because that's what this really comes down to. All the other stuff is just icing on the cake of revisionist history that views Mark Reynolds as indispensable and a legitimate difference maker, when for a good chunk of his two years in Baltimore, nobody viewed him as such.

It was true that he was disliked, even hated, by many on this board and elsewhere, but towards the end of the last year he rejuvenated himself and was indeed a big reason for the playoffs last year. I think the Orioles gambled that he couldn't keep that up; now they are finding out that they turned up snake eyes.

[El Gordo]

I always liked Mark And I am happy he is having a good year so far. I don't think his play at 1B was any better than Davis' is now. Reynolds made routine plays look hard because he was not accustomed to the foot work art 1B. I do wish we had his bat in the lineup instead of Reimold's. Though if Betemit hadn't been injured, I don't think it would be such a big deal, no matter how bad Reimold sucks.