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I always liked Mark And I am happy he is having a good year so far. I don't think his play at 1B was any better than Davis' is now. Reynolds made routine plays look hard because he was not accustomed to the foot work art 1B. I do wish we had his bat in the lineup instead of Reimold's. Though if Betemit hadn't been injured, I don't think it would be such a big deal, no matter how bad Reimold sucks.

Very true. Another thing he wasn't good at wasn't letting a ball go that was easier for whomever was playing 2B. A great example was in tonight's game on Flaherty's "single" to Hosmer in the 3-4 hole. Bordick, of all people, did a very good job of setting it up and even mentioned the difference between Davis who recognizes this play and gets back to first to receive the throw.

I don't know how many times I screamed at the monitor last year when Reynolds ranged way too far out of position on a play that Andino usually was camped behind him waiting to scoop up the ball. The pitcher is supposed to cover, but on balls hit that far left of 1B it should not be a consideration.

Tonight on the ball that Flaherty hit you can clearly see Getz in position behind Hosmer to field the ball when Hosmer picked it up. It would have been a tough play for Guthrie to get to the bag and I think Hosmer saw that and decided against throwing it. If he stays in his area to receive the throw it's really an easy play for Getz.

Davis has a very good recognition of balls he can get to and balls that are not playable.

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Very true. Another thing he wasn't good at wasn't letting a ball go that was easier for whomever was playing 2B. A great example was in tonight's game on Flaherty's "single" to Hosmer in the 3-4 hole. Bordick, of all people, did a very good job of setting it up and even mentioned the difference between Davis who recognizes this play and gets back to first to receive the throw.

I don't know how many times I screamed at the monitor last year when Reynolds ranged way too far out of position on a play that Andino usually was camped behind him waiting to scoop up the ball. The pitcher is supposed to cover, but on balls hit that far left of 1B it should not be a consideration.

Tonight on the ball that Flaherty hit you can clearly see Getz in position behind Hosmer to field the ball when Hosmer picked it up. It would have been a tough play for Guthrie to get to the bag and I think Hosmer saw that and decided against throwing it. If he stays in his area to receive the throw it's really an easy play for Getz.

Davis has a very good recognition of balls he can get to and balls that are not playable.

I agree with you on this and Bordick did make it clear it's something the O's work on, but there was one today that I thought Davis should have tried for. Flaherty was way out of position to have any chance for it. I think it was the last hit McFarland gave up before they took him out.

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My goodness...the question isn't who is the better first baseman but why not have both? How much would that be helping us now? Take basically zero production and put in Mark Reynolds. Would he be super happy DHing? Who cares? He got a 1 year deal from Cleveland, he couldn't have been in a strong bargaining position.

Then if Davis goes down, like we thought last week, the end isn't near.

I think they significantly underestimated Reynolds value and also Reimolds ability to get hurt and be a consistent contributor.

I like Reimold a lot, but the trend is your friend. He can't stay healthy. If he proves otherwise, great but doubtful.

Regardless I scratch my head at anyone who thinks not resigning Reynolds made sense. We are one injury away from disaster.

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My goodness...the question isn't who is the better first baseman but why not have both? How much would that be helping us now? Take basically zero production and put in Mark Reynolds. Would he be super happy DHing? Who cares? He got a 1 year deal from Cleveland, he couldn't have been in a strong bargaining position.

Then if Davis goes down, like we thought last week, the end isn't near.

I think they significantly underestimated Reynolds value and also Reimolds ability to get hurt and be a consistent contributor.

I like Reimold a lot, but the trend is your friend. He can't stay healthy. If he proves otherwise, great but doubtful.

Regardless I scratch my head at anyone who thinks not resigning Reynolds made sense. We are one injury away from disaster.

A Betemit/Pearce (maybe Reimold to some extent) platoon were the primary players being counted on to fill the DH position. It was estimated that they could approximate Reynold's production at a lesser cost. Based on Reynold's last 3 years of production, I think that was a reasonable assessment. Cost was apparently a pretty big factor in the decision making process.

Davis was going to be first baseman.

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My goodness...the question isn't who is the better first baseman but why not have both? How much would that be helping us now? Take basically zero production and put in Mark Reynolds. Would he be super happy DHing? Who cares? He got a 1 year deal from Cleveland, he couldn't have been in a strong bargaining position.

Then if Davis goes down, like we thought last week, the end isn't near.

I think they significantly underestimated Reynolds value and also Reimolds ability to get hurt and be a consistent contributor.

I like Reimold a lot, but the trend is your friend. He can't stay healthy. If he proves otherwise, great but doubtful.

Regardless I scratch my head at anyone who thinks not resigning Reynolds made sense. We are one injury away from disaster.

Reynolds was a replacement level player the last 3 years. He wasn't worth the money for the production he was giving. Couldn't field and couldn't hit. Why would you pay the guy 6 million a year to do that?

So far he looks like he is having a career year. Great for him. Even Mark Belanger had a year where he hit decently. So this can happen. Good for him and good for the Indians.

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Explain to me how Robert Andino improves this team again?

65 PA, .169/.222/.220, 28 OPS+

And before you say so, no I am not accepting that he is hitting better than Flaherty right now.

Joe Saunders > than Freddy Garcia, Steve Johnson, Tsuyoshi Wada, and Jair Jurrjens?

I don't think so. Not even close if you get to mix and match guys. And yes, I have not even talked about the guys in AAA that could give a few starts before the season is over.

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While everyone is obsessing about Reynolds, why didn't we keep Guthrie? He sure would look good pitching for the O's this year. What a bonehead move to let him go.

Guthrie has indeed been pitching great since he was traded to Kansas City last year :cool:, but a significant difference between us losing Guthrie and us losing Reynolds is that we got Jason Hammel and Matt Lindstrom for Guthrie, whereas Reynolds walked away as a free agent, and we got nothing.

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Guthrie has indeed been pitching great since he was traded to Kansas City last year :cool:, but a significant difference between us losing Guthrie and us losing Reynolds is that we got Jason Hammel and Matt Lindstrom for Guthrie, whereas Reynolds walked away as a free agent, and we got nothing.

Good point I forgot about that. My brain is fried from too much partying in my youth.

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While everyone is obsessing about Reynolds, why didn't we keep Guthrie? He sure would look good pitching for the O's this year. What a bonehead move to let him go.
Guthrie has indeed been pitching great since he was traded to Kansas City last year :cool:, but a significant difference between us losing Guthrie and us losing Reynolds is that we got Jason Hammel and Matt Lindstrom for Guthrie, whereas Reynolds walked away as a free agent, and we got nothing.

I think if you average Guthrie last season and this year with Hammel last season pus this year, Hammel is better. Also. Guts was a free agent. We could have had him back. That trade was for just Guthrie's last season. No brainer great trade.

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My goodness...the question isn't who is the better first baseman but why not have both? How much would that be helping us now? Take basically zero production and put in Mark Reynolds. Would he be super happy DHing? Who cares? He got a 1 year deal from Cleveland, he couldn't have been in a strong bargaining position.

Then if Davis goes down, like we thought last week, the end isn't near.

I think they significantly underestimated Reynolds value and also Reimolds ability to get hurt and be a consistent contributor.

I like Reimold a lot, but the trend is your friend. He can't stay healthy. If he proves otherwise, great but doubtful.

Regardless I scratch my head at anyone who thinks not resigning Reynolds made sense. We are one injury away from disaster.

He was brought in to Cle to primarily DH. It's probably one of the reasons he's doing so well. He doesn't have to work on his fielding issues. He spends all his time on his swing...

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