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I've seen him at short, second and third. He is nowhere as good at second as Ryan Flaherty has become.

Buck must be getting reports on Navarro from Johnson at Norfolk, and knowing how he values defense and how our offense seems to be scoring right now there is probably little chance he sacrifices the solid defense we've received from Flaherty.

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I've never seen so much disrespect for an Oriole as there has been for Roberts on this site. He is one of the greatest Orioles of all time. It is no ones business what he does with his money,

Greatest? Look, I love Brob, but it's time to cut ties. Fish or cut bait.

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I've never seen so much disrespect for an Oriole as there has been for Roberts on this site. He is one of the greatest Orioles of all time. It is no ones business what he does with his money,

Albert Belle was less respected. Roberts hasn't been on the field, much less performed. And he isn't one of the greatest Orioles of all time. Not even close.

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The Roberts situation is depressing. If they did not resign him, it would look like they were letting home grown talent go. However you sign him, and he has a nearly unprecedented string of injuries and bad news. When he has played, he has looked great to me. He fouls of pitches and goes deep in counts unlike any player current on the team.

I don't understand the spate of a leg injuries he has had the last two years unless he was a bigger roid user than we know about. Given that he has sat out 3 plus years now..he should have a bit of tread left on the tires.

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I've never seen so much disrespect for an Oriole as there has been for Roberts on this site. He is one of the greatest Orioles of all time. It is no ones business what he does with his money,

Not true, whenever Adam Jones does anything, someone has something negative to say about it.

Some folks (not me) are justified in thinking that BRob is coasting through the rest of his contract by refusing to retire. Some believe he knows that he can't do it anymore, but won't walk away for some reason - maybe pride, maybe a desire to retain his fiscal lifestyle - and others on here (like me) believes he should walk away while he still can and live out the rest of his life with his family in decent health.

Whenever the man steps on a field he gets hurt after a few games. I would hate to see him really do even more damage to himself. He was my favorite Oriole through the darkest of times, and he should step down gracefully so the Orioles can somehow trade for a legit 2B or give another guy a legit shot at the gig.

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The Roberts situation is depressing. If they did not resign him, it would look like they were letting home grown talent go. However you sign him, and he has a nearly unprecedented string of injuries and bad news. When he has played, he has looked great to me. He fouls of pitches and goes deep in counts unlike any player current on the team.

I don't understand the spate of a leg injuries he has had the last two years unless he was a bigger roid user than we know about. Given that he has sat out 3 plus years now..he should have a bit of tread left on the tires.

Easier to stay in shape then get in shape. Roberts isn't young and he wasn't anywhere near playing shape by the time he recovered from the concussions. I fully believe last year's injury was due to a combination of coming back too soon and playing too much once he came back.

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I respect your points, however, baseball contracts are guaranteed. So I would have no trouble accepting the 40 million that was negotiated by my agent. My further rationale would be as follows:

1. I still produced those numbers in the majors against others who were using as well.

2. While tapping myself on the helmet didn't help, no one was complaining about the headfirst slides that contributed to my head injuries.

I doubt that Brian Roberts has trouble sleeping at night, nor should he. I'll say it again it's a guaranteed contract. IMO there is no dishonor in being paid the terms of your contract while you are injured. Further, I'd be surprised if he doesn't donate a significant amount of money to charity.This despite your catagorizing him as a lazy PED abusing, self abusing, dishonorable money hoarder. Finally, Roberts has provided much more value than Belle ever did during his tenure with the Orioles IMO.

This must be the first time I've ever heard of a guy who took his own bat and literally assaulted himself as "tapping" himself on the head. Really? Have you ever watched the tape? Roberts did this more than once in anger generally when he had a swing and miss in an AB. He's admitted it. He actually said "whacked", a more apt description.

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=5650662

And there's little doubt he's produced very much after the Orioles signed him to his current contract. And it does bother Roberts not to be on the field, he's said that too. Frankly, the idea that these guys don't want to be earning their money is ridiculous.

We've seen flashes of Roberts circa 2008, but that time is gone.

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I've never seen so much disrespect for an Oriole as there has been for Roberts on this site. He is one of the greatest Orioles of all time. It is no ones business what he does with his money,

I've been pretty fair in regards to Roberts. I don't agree with how bitter a lot of O's fans are, but I certainly understand why they are fed up. In an era where we didn't have many top quality players, Roberts was someone any team would have wanted. I really respected his scrappy style and he was a safe bet to get 600+ at bats. After he signed the big contract, that player has been largely missing. Literally. In 3 months Machado has pretty much scored as many runs as Roberts has in 3.2 seasons. He's become brittle for sure, but the self-inflicted head injury is something I think fans continue to latch onto. A lot of that contract has evaporated while everyone waited for eve n the most modest improvements. And when fans did see him, he seemed like a less interested players. Not running hard to 1st.....fielding goofs. And the reports that people in the organization questioned his desire to return certainly fuel the fire. He was a guy the fan base really loved...and why wouldn't you. Since the contract, he's either been AWOL or played in frustratingly brief stints. And at a time where we're finally good and could really use his abilities at 2B, we still can't count on him. Even the most level minded O's fans have a hard time reconciling the difference between Roberts pre-contract and Roberts post-contract. And that's mixed in with some sympathy for Roberts himself.....who very well may be doing the best he can and is simply betrayed by his body. My hope is that he can get right and play out his contract productively. He does have a place in Oriole history, and was one of my favorites at a time when there was little to care about. The money thing is a dead issue...it ain't coming back. What is unfortunate is that he may end his Oriole career with his contributions diminished and fans wondering if he simply called in sick because he lost interest after the big payday. That's not how I want to see his legacy cemented. A pretty lousy situation for all.

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Not sure that there is a happier/sadder story than Brob. Little, over achieving underdog, with heart problems. Wins the hearts of fans with his gusto. Steroid allegations. Breaks down with every turn of the page. Sigh.

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I've been pretty fair in regards to Roberts. I don't agree with how bitter a lot of O's fans are, but I certainly understand why they are fed up. In an era where we didn't have many top quality players, Roberts was someone any team would have wanted. I really respected his scrappy style and he was a safe bet to get 600+ at bats. After he signed the big contract, that player has been largely missing. Literally. In 3 months Machado has pretty much scored as many runs as Roberts has in 3.2 seasons. He's become brittle for sure, but the self-inflicted head injury is something I think fans continue to latch onto. A lot of that contract has evaporated while everyone waited for eve n the most modest improvements. And when fans did see him, he seemed like a less interested players. Not running hard to 1st.....fielding goofs. And the reports that people in the organization questioned his desire to return certainly fuel the fire. He was a guy the fan base really loved...and why wouldn't you. Since the contract, he's either been AWOL or played in frustratingly brief stints. And at a time where we're finally good and could really use his abilities at 2B, we still can't count on him. Even the most level minded O's fans have a hard time reconciling the difference between Roberts pre-contract and Roberts post-contract. And that's mixed in with some sympathy for Roberts himself.....who very well may be doing the best he can and is simply betrayed by his body. My hope is that he can get right and play out his contract productively. He does have a place in Oriole history, and was one of my favorites at a time when there was little to care about. The money thing is a dead issue...it ain't coming back. What is unfortunate is that he may end his Oriole career with his contributions diminished and fans wondering if he simply called in sick because he lost interest after the big payday. That's not how I want to see his legacy cemented. A pretty lousy situation for all.

This is where I am at. I don't expect anything from Brian Roberts. It would be a nice story, but no one can honestly say that he gives us anywhere near the defense that Flaherty has surprisingly provided this year. So, he isn't missed there. If he can get healthy to contribute and hit like he did during ST before Flaherty figures out how to hit off speed pitches then I'm sure he'll be penciled in the lineup.

I'm not any more confident of Flaherty's ability with the bat than I am of Roberts becoming healthy. The good news is right now our offense is good enough to carry Flaherty's glove.

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Roberts does a lot of charity work for the University of Maryland Children's Hospital and for that he has my deepest respect. I know his latest ailment was self-inflicted but it is not as if he did it to get out of honoring his contract. Quite the contrary, he has suffered because of it. I know a lot of people here think he should return the money but I wonder how many would want him to do so if he were the Yankees' problem instead of ours. I'd bet people would be quite content to let the Yankees eat the contract, maybe as a side dish, since the ARod contract is the main course. Moreover, I wonder how many people would hand the money back to their billionaire baseball owner and his insurance company, instead of keeping the money. I don't like to see Roberts go out this way, but he has to find the courage to call it a career, not for the sake of the money, but just so he can move on emotionally with the rest of his life.

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Isn't the insurance part of the issue? When players buy it when they stay for another year of college for instance, it pays if they never play again, not if they are diminished. What do the O's get for DL and a handful of games vs full retirement 2 years ago?

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Roberts does a lot of charity work for the University of Maryland Children's Hospital and for that he has my deepest respect. I know his latest ailment was self-inflicted but it is not as if he did it to get out of honoring his contract. Quite the contrary, he has suffered because of it. I know a lot of people here think he should return the money but I wonder how many would want him to do so if he were the Yankees' problem instead of ours. I'd bet people would be quite content to let the Yankees eat the contract, maybe as a side dish, since the ARod contract is the main course. Moreover, I wonder how many people would hand the money back to their billionaire baseball owner and his insurance company, instead of keeping the money. I don't like to see Roberts go out this way, but he has to find the courage to call it a career, not for the sake of the money, but just so he can move on emotionally with the rest of his life.

Thank you great post Tony

1. Brian Roberts prob feels worse about not being able to produce than any fan does. My guess is the guy has pride and does not want his career as O to end this way

2. Anyone who thinks he should give the money back or donate it blah blah is not being realistic and frankly its a little petty. Nate McLouth took a buttload of money (not as much but a lot) from the Braves and they got very little in return. These guys are commodities and much like a stock there is risk. Sometimes it pays big dividends sometimes not.

3. BRob is neither a "great Oriole" or a lazy guy who coasted through his contract. He is a guy who has had unfortunate documented medical issues. The hows and whys really don't matter it happened and according to his contract and the the labor rules he is entitled to be paid. People can not like it or feel its not fair or what would happen to a "normal" working person but nothing about being a MLB player is like being a normal working person so why should this be.

4. The lack of production at 2B over the past 2 years is frankly the O's and the FO fault for depending on Roberts to recover and be able to play. You can agree or disagree with their choice to go that route but they could have easily dumped him this past offseason and signed someone better than Casilla or the inexperienced Flaherty. They chose not to and based on track record and the current situation at 2B its a decision that seems to be biting them in the butt now. They bear some responsibility for that. I love DD and Buck but it was a gamble and did not bear out to this point. Fortunately they are right a lot more than wrong IMO

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Roberts shouldn't be in Sarasota..he lives there. Make him rehab in Norfolk. Or just FDA him already
I'm not sure how the Food and Drug Administration would classify him.

A recall would certainly be in order.

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