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Is Wieters a disappointment?

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Yeah, I guess I wasn't totally clear - I know the connotations that the terms "defensive catcher" and "offensive catcher" generally carry. I imagine it as a venn diagram, with a small percentage of catchers falling into the space in which they could be described in either sense, so my (attempted) point was that, especially in Matt's case, the two terms are not mutually exclusive, no matter the traditional connotations.

Yeah, you are right - when I hear defensive catcher I picture: .215/.265/.325 ... a traditional catch and throw guy with no bat.

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He was supposed to be a switch hitting Mike Piazza with a far better arm. He's a good player, yeah, but he's still a disappointment compared to his prospect status. He was supposed to be a major superstar offensively and defensively.

The batting average is the one thing I'm most disappointed in, personally. He had like a career .350 minor league batting average, yet that hasn't transitioned to the majors at all. I was thinking he'd be a minimum .300 guy.

It's amazing that you have no clue as to how unreasonable those expectations were - and that you're not the only one.

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It's amazing that you have no clue as to how unreasonable those expectations were - and that you're not the only one.

It doesn't matter whether the expectations were unreasonable, just that the expectations were there. Would you not say that Jay Bruce has been a disappointment, even though he's a pretty good player? "Disappointing" is a relative term. I was disappointed that Ken Griffey, Jr. didnt break Hank AAron's HR record after what he did in the first decade of his career.

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It doesn't matter whether the expectations were unreasonable, just that the expectations were there. Would you not say that Jay Bruce has been a disappointment, even though he's a pretty good player? "Disappointing" is a relative term. I was disappointed that Ken Griffey, Jr. didnt break Hank AAron's HR record after what he did in the first decade of his career.

Maybe it's all semantics, but would you characterize Griffey as a "disappointment?"

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Wieters is the biggest disappointment I can think of overall. Yes, I know he's a nice guy. Yes, I know he calls a good game and throws out would-be base stealers. I get all that. But I also get the fact that he's never going to be a good hitter. I suppose I wouldn't be so critical if he hadn't been sold to us as the next Joe Mauer or a "switch-hitting Jesus." I would absolutely consider trading Wieters at some point for the right return, someone who is a decent catcher but can also hit better than .225/13HR/55RBI per season.

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Wieters is the biggest disappointment I can think of overall. Yes, I know he's a nice guy. Yes, I know he calls a good game and throws out would-be base stealers. I get all that. But I also get the fact that he's never going to be a good hitter. I suppose I wouldn't be so critical if he hadn't been sold to us as the next Joe Mauer or a "switch-hitting Jesus." I would absolutely consider trading Wieters at some point for the right return, someone who is a decent catcher but can also hit better than .225/13HR/55RBI per season.

Odd considering that Matt's 162 game average is .259/21/80

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Except that Manny can hit a baseball on a consistent basis and he hasn't even been here for a full year. I didn't expect Wieters to hit .350, but he can't even break above .250 and usually hovers around .220. That's a bust to me after all these years.

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Except that Manny can hit a baseball on a consistent basis and he hasn't even been here for a full year. I didn't expect Wieters to hit .350, but he can't even break above .250 and usually hovers around .220. That's a bust to me after all these years.

Other then a desire to troll is there a reason why you are ignoring facts? Matt has never finished a season batting less then .249.

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Every time that I have even the slightest disappointment in any member of the team (Matt Wieters or anyone else), I simply remind myself of my feelings about Lew Ford, and thank goodness that there aren't more than one of him.

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Except that Manny can hit a baseball on a consistent basis and he hasn't even been here for a full year. I didn't expect Wieters to hit .350, but he can't even break above .250 and usually hovers around .220. That's a bust to me after all these years.

I hate Matt Wieters because he hits .180 every year with 2 homers.

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It's amazing that you have no clue as to how unreasonable those expectations were - and that you're not the only one.

Especially considering that Piazza, a DH of a catcher, has had rumors surrounding his back acne for years.

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Other then a desire to troll is there a reason why you are ignoring facts? Matt has never finished a season batting less then .249.

Tell the big lie enough times and folk will believe it. We ran Eddie Murray out of town you know.

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