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Or maybe he's falling back down to earth..those two ALDS performances still weigh on my mind..

Agree, when he choked in the ALDS, I thought we should have entertained thoughts on selling him high during the offseason

Don't know what we could have gotten for him but a lot more than we can now

Blowing a save is one thing, but blowing a 2 run lead and actually taking the loss... against the 7-8-9 hitters.

He won't be getting 7.5+ million from the O's next year.

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Il BuonO Hangout Grand Counsel

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Agree, when he choked in the ALDS, I thought we should have entertained thoughts on selling him high during the offseason

Don't know what we could have gotten for him but a lot more than we can now

Blowing a save is one thing, but blowing a 2 run lead and actually taking the loss... against the 7-8-9 hitters.

He won't be getting 7.5+ million from the O's next year.

Contracts like that for relievers are among the worst in baseball.

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In the game the other night where he blew the save my wife commented that he looked very pale and the today they had a closeup of his face he he looked like he was feeling horrible. I'm hoping the recent struggles are a cold or something. When he is bad, he is really bad.

I would probably go with him being human and not being perfect.

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Naw, contracts like that, for three or more years, are among the worst in baseball.

A one year deal can only do so much damage to a franchise.

Right and that's what I was pointing to.

He probably will get at least 7.5M from the Orioles next year. Hopefully, he just won't be getting a 3/24 or 3/30 contract from them.

I'd be surprised if this isn't what he's going after. Is he still arbitration eligible or a FA.

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His warmups looked good, he started off looking okay, but once he gave up the homer, he was missing down a lot. Like he was over compensating for being up and flat. It's hard to tell from sec 8 In RF, but his demeanor seemed to change right after the homer, and slowly worsened as the inning did. Just sorta went in the black hole.

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I think what I don't like is giving a reliever that much to begin with when so many of them are like interchangeable parts.

It's simple, look at what JJ is making then look at what O'Day is making.

The teams cause the problem by insisting on using a "closer".

If they spread out the save chances throughout the pen it would stop the 7 million arbitration awards.

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His warmups looked good, he started off looking okay, but once he gave up the homer, he was missing down a lot. Like he was over compensating for being up and flat. It's hard to tell from sec 8 In RF, but his demeanor seemed to change right after the homer, and slowly worsened as the inning did. Just sorta went in the black hole.

You're right. I just don't think he's mentally tough

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JJ had one two-week stretch last year when his command went walkabout, and then he gathered himself and had a great 9-10 week stretch to finish the season. This is how it goes for him, he may take a few games before he totally rights the ship.

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JJ had one two-week stretch last year when his command went walkabout, and then he gathered himself and had a great 9-10 week stretch to finish the season. This is how it goes for him, he may take a few games before he totally rights the ship.
this reminded me of that game against Oakland last year.
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You're right. I just don't think he's mentally tough

That may just be the dumbest thing i have read. He had just converted 35 saves in a row some which he had to come in to save us in the 8th or like the game strop almost blew. He has faced many tough situations the last few years. His mechanics are off right now and the big difference i saw today was his fastball was 93-95 and his change was 89-90. He usually has a bigger difference between those two.

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I get being disappointed but some of the posts on here are borderline absurd

JJ converted what 35 straight before this 2 game slide? Obviously he can get it done and obviously something is up be it physical or mechanical.

How about we take a deep breath and let him work it out. If it continues then we can discuss the options we have.

Its not like the guy has been horrible and this is just the latest episode. JJ is one of the most consistently good closers in the game. He will get it fixed.

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