Get Strop off of this roster

[wildcard]

So you don't have an opinion? Your opinion is that whatever the O's do with Strop is the right thing?

Minimize his outing to games that the O's are behind or way ahead until he finds his confidence and control. The guy has a great fastball and slider when he can control it. He is just out of sync.

If there comes a point where the O's have a better solution in the minors then consider a move. If we get to July and the O's need to make a trade - do it. But right now just take as much pressure off as possible and let him work through it.

Its a good thing that Hunter has stepped up this year. He is filling Strop's old role.

[waroriole]

Huh? What statistical measures are you looking at?

If you're going by ERA -- which is a misleading stat for relief pitchers anyway -- Johnson is still better than Patton and Strop. If you're going by K per 9, he's better than Patton and (surprise!) Hunter. If you're going by BB per 9, he's better than everyone except Matusz and Hunter.

Did you just have a brain freeze and get Jim Johnson confused with someone else? It happens. Otherwise, this is an inexplicably misinformed post.

I think some people believe they have to say something outlandish and ridiculous to get noticed on here.

[waroriole]

Minimize his outing to games that the O's are behind or way ahead until he finds his confidence and control. The guy has a great fastball and slider when he can control it. He is just out of sync.

We're already hiding McFarland and Patton. How many people can hide in the bullpen?

[Crazysilver03]

We could give a bullpen spot to Ascenio. And Wada will be back sooner than later so either he or Garcia go to the bullpen.

[webbrick2010]

Huh? What statistical measures are you looking at?

If you're going by ERA -- which is a misleading stat for relief pitchers anyway -- Johnson is still better than Patton and Strop. If you're going by K per 9, he's better than Patton and (surprise!) Hunter. If you're going by BB per 9, he's better than everyone except Matusz and Hunter.

Did you just have a brain freeze and get Jim Johnson confused with someone else? It happens. Otherwise, this is an inexplicably misinformed post.

ERA : 4.03 (Has only started an inning in a bases empty situation)

H/9 : 8.9

BAA : .265

SV/SO : 14/17

W/L : 2-4

Your right he is not the worst member of the bullpen but those are bad numbers for a closer

[weams]

I think some people believe they have to say something outlandish and ridiculous to get noticed on here.

They really don't. We notice even the imprecise and the less than accurate.

[weams]

We could give a bullpen spot to Ascenio. And Wada will be back sooner than later so either he or Garcia go to the bullpen.

Do you think Pedro Strop would have similar numbers to Jairo if he were in AAA?

[wildcard]

We're already hiding McFarland and Patton. How many people can hide in the bullpen?

Depends on how deep the starters go, how many extra innings games there are and how good J Johnson, O'Day, Hunter and Matusz are.

Buck managed last year to use his good relievers in 2 out of 3 games. The third game was something a blow out that really made the ERA look bad but the object of the game is to win so Buck managed accordingly.

[boller4president]

Jim Johnson's job in to close games. He is tied for third in the AL and 4th in the majors with 14 saves. He is on a pace for 48 saves. True he hit a rough spot lately but with his track record and the pace he is on it looks like another great year for Jim.

Jim Johnson job like every other reliever is to get outs.

[wildcard]

Jim Johnson job like every other reliever is to get outs.

Close games/get outs. What is your point?

[DrungoHazewood]

Out of curiosity, can anyone name a pitcher with a career BB/9 above 4.50 who went on to have a successfull career as a MLB reliever?

Through his first year+ Gregg Olson walked over 5.0 per nine.

Rod Scurry pitched almost 500 innings as a MLB reliever with an ERA of 3.24 and 5.4 BB/9.

Ryne Duren was the feared closer for the '58-'59 Yanks, pitched 300 MLB games, led the league in saves once, and had a career BB/9 of 6.0.

Joel Zumaya has seen his career blown up by injury, but was very effective for a time, but has a BB/9 of 4.9.

John Hiller was a very valuable reliever in the '70, mostly forgotten today. But from '75-79 he walked over 4.5 per nine while posting 2-4 WAR seasons as a fireman.

Charlie Hough spent 11 years as a reliever before moving to the rotation, and was pretty effective despite 4.6 BB/9.

Mike Gonzalez mostly melted down here but he had a 2.37 ERA his first four years in the majors despite three years with 5+ BB/9.

Doug Sisk was the bizarre case of a guy who not only had a BB/9 over 4.6 and an ERA of 3.27, but he struck out fewer than he walked.

And it's arguable whether you call Mitch Williams successful, but he did have 616 MLB games in relief, 192 saves (47th all time), and 7.1 BB/9.

[sfosfan]

No options. He'd have to clear waivers if he was sent down, and there is no chance of that.

AND THAT'S A BAD THING?

Why WOULDN'T we want Strop to get picked up elsewhere? He's then someone else's problem. Hopefully the Yankees would claim him. They've got lots of money to burn.

[Bradysburns]

Who would you all replace Strop with? Honest question.

Scenario: "Orioles DFA Pedro Strop, recall _____ from AAA or AA." (Your answer cannot be "anyone" - be specific.)

Arrieta?

[wildcard]

This isn't some kind of pattern you can count on. 2 close games and a blowout. The Orioles have gone from 8 games over to 3 games over. A lot of that is because the bullpen hasn't been as good as last year. You make improvements where you can. Jake Arrieta might stink out of the pen. He might be good. He might be great. The worst case scenario is what we are already getting from Pedro Strop.

All come on. I can't hang the total problem in May on the pen. Johnson sure. He dropped a couple of games the O's should have won. Nothing to do about that. He is going nowhere. But the starters were the problem for the most part. Chen and Gonzo out. No one to real filling the fifth spot until Gausman. Hammel not pitching like he did the 1st half of last year. Tillman is really the only starter that did that well so far in May.

[Dipper9]

I find it ironic that some of the same people who are defending Strop and his 4 months of badness, are the same ones criticizing Jim Johnson for 3 bad outings out of an otherwise great two years.