What kind of punishment are you expecting for Hammel?

[Moose Milligan]

Hit him in the shoulder and bounced up and hit him in the head. Either way, if you're arguing the "control" issue, then it doesn't matter if he hit him in the head or not. It was in the general area and thats all that matters.

Ah, moving the goalposts.

[scOtt]

Suspension? Really?

:rofl:

MAYbe a fine for appearances. But no more.

[AlbionHero]

He wasn't hit in the head.

You used the expression "Head Hunting", that term implies intent. You then decided to add a qualifying statement that was contradictory to the phraseology you used earlier in the same sentence.

Head hunting is what its called when you throw at someones head. Thats the reason he was ejected, since it was in the general range that counts as head hunting.

Are you trying to say that all the intent in the world doesn't matter if its off by 1 inch?

[scOtt]

A suspension of enough games to cover a start, for sure. Anytime you headhunt in a situation like that is an automatic suspension, whether he meant it to be intentional or not.

"Headhunt"! You're an idiot!

[wildcard]

No punishment for Hammel.

Ump gets fined for throwing him out.

[Moose Milligan]

Head hunting is what its called when you throw at someones head. Thats the reason he was ejected, since it was in the general range that counts as head hunting.

Are you trying to say that all the intent in the world doesn't matter if its off by 1 inch?

Wait, still confused. Why try to hit someone in the head with a slider instead of a fastball?

[AlbionHero]

Wait, still confused. Why try to hit someone in the head with a slider instead of a fastball?

http://www.cbssports.com/mlb/blog/eye-on-baseball/22338595/jason-hammel-gives-up-three-straight-homers-plunks-next-guy-gets-tossed

This article explains it well.

"My own conspiracy theory is that pitchers do this -- "this" being go to the off-speed stuff -- precisely for purposes of plausible deniability. After all, Hammel's slider checks in at 84.5 miles per hour, which means it's fully capable of leaving a mark."

You can get your frustration out of your system while also being able to deny you meant to hit him. Throwing a fastball is basically admitting you're trying to hurt the guy and asking for a suspension.

[weams]

Suspension? Really?

:rofl:

MAYbe a fine for appearances. But no more.

He have to buy the donuts. That's it. The umpire does not want to have to defend that action.

[scOtt]

http://www.cbssports.com/mlb/blog/eye-on-baseball/22338595/jason-hammel-gives-up-three-straight-homers-plunks-next-guy-gets-tossed

This article explains it well.

"My own conspiracy theory is that pitchers do this -- "this" being go to the off-speed stuff -- precisely for purposes of plausible deniability. After all, Hammel's slider checks in at 84.5 miles per hour, which means it's fully capable of leaving a mark."

You can get your frustration out of your system while also being able to deny you meant to hit him. Throwing a fastball is basically admitting you're trying to hurt the guy and asking for a suspension.

Idiot. Push your agenda all you want. You're wrong. Diametrically opposed to being CLOSE to right.

[AlbionHero]

Idiot. Push your agenda all you want. You're wrong. Diametrically opposed to being CLOSE to right.

What are the actual chances that the first pitch after giving up 3 straight homers nearly hits a guy in the head? 0.3% maybe?

I know its tough to admit that MAYBE it was intentional, but its a tough pill for me to swallow. I'd like to think it wasn't intentional but really, theres very little chance it wasn't.

[Moose Milligan]

http://www.cbssports.com/mlb/blog/eye-on-baseball/22338595/jason-hammel-gives-up-three-straight-homers-plunks-next-guy-gets-tossed

This article explains it well.

"My own conspiracy theory is that pitchers do this -- "this" being go to the off-speed stuff -- precisely for purposes of plausible deniability. After all, Hammel's slider checks in at 84.5 miles per hour, which means it's fully capable of leaving a mark."

You can get your frustration out of your system while also being able to deny you meant to hit him. Throwing a fastball is basically admitting you're trying to hurt the guy and asking for a suspension.

In Hammel's defense, I suppose, is that on Saturday he threw just 32 of his 63 pitches for strikes, so it's possible he really didn't know where the heck the ball was going. Matt Wieters's throw-it-low-and-on-the-outer-half positioning just prior to the pitch would also seem to provide some exculpatory evidence, but plate umpire Hunter Wendelstedt was unmoved.

It's not like Hammel had any command today to begin with.

Buck in the postgame presser saying that 10 or so pitches slipped out of his hand today.

[scOtt]

http://www.cbssports.com/mlb/blog/eye-on-baseball/22338595/jason-hammel-gives-up-three-straight-homers-plunks-next-guy-gets-tossed

This article explains it well.

"My own conspiracy theory is that pitchers do this -- "this" being go to the off-speed stuff -- precisely for purposes of plausible deniability. After all, Hammel's slider checks in at 84.5 miles per hour, which means it's fully capable of leaving a mark."

You can get your frustration out of your system while also being able to deny you meant to hit him. Throwing a fastball is basically admitting you're trying to hurt the guy and asking for a suspension.

Here's an article that explains your reaction...

http://web.archive.org/web/20041009182126/http://members.ams.chello.nl/jvane/welcome.htm

[Can_of_corn]

Head hunting is what its called when you throw at someones head. Thats the reason he was ejected, since it was in the general range that counts as head hunting.

Are you trying to say that all the intent in the world doesn't matter if its off by 1 inch?

Wait, still confused. Why try to hit someone in the head with a slider instead of a fastball?

Wait, still confused. How can you call it Headhunting then claim you are unsure of his intent?

Was he like Viridovix the lucky Celt who just happened to find a Roman head in his knapsack after a big battle?

[Can_of_corn]

It's not like Hammel had any command today to begin with.

Buck in the postgame presser saying that 10 or so pitches slipped out of his hand today.

Needed some Bullfrog.

[LookitsPuck]

None. No punishment.