Team era when Wieters is not behind the plate is under 3.00

[joedogg9999]

When hes catching? Over 5.00

Pitchers have to execute the pitches, yes, but clearly wieters is not helping anyone. Bad pitch calling, bad pitch setting up, and absolutely no framing to get his guys more strikes.

Its no coincidence Gausman was far and away better against a far better lineup when snyder was catching.

I dont expect any serious responses to this considering matt wieters is jesus on cleets around here but hes hurting this team more than hes helping. Between his bad game in the pitching game and his miserable bat we would be better off trading him for a ToR. He still has that value around the league but that wont last much longer.

[calmunderfire]

We can accept the fact that 95% of our starters fail.

Why can't we accept the fact that our Catcher just isn't that good?

[MagicBird]

[Can_of_corn]

When hes catching? Over 5.00

Pitchers have to execute the pitches, yes, but clearly wieters is not helping anyone. Bad pitch calling, bad pitch setting up, and absolutely no framing to get his guys more strikes.

Its no coincidence Gausman was far and away better against a far better lineup when snyder was catching.

I dont expect any serious responses to this considering matt wieters is jesus on cleets around here but hes hurting this team more than hes helping. Between his bad game in the pitching game and his miserable bat we would be better off trading him for a ToR. He still has that value around the league but that wont last much longer.

I thought it was but your vigorous use of the scientific method has swayed me.

[Malike]

When hes catching? Over 5.00

Pitchers have to execute the pitches, yes, but clearly wieters is not helping anyone. Bad pitch calling, bad pitch setting up, and absolutely no framing to get his guys more strikes.

Its no coincidence Gausman was far and away better against a far better lineup when snyder was catching.

I dont expect any serious responses to this considering matt wieters is jesus on cleets around here but hes hurting this team more than hes helping. Between his bad game in the pitching game and his miserable bat we would be better off trading him for a ToR. He still has that value around the league but that wont last much longer.

So, they've caught a total of 11 games, and Wieters 56. You think 6 games for Snyder and 5 for Teagarden are a sufficient sample? Of course you do, your agenda is obvious, and ridiculous.

[Dark Helmet]

When hes catching? Over 5.00

Pitchers have to execute the pitches, yes, but clearly wieters is not helping anyone. Bad pitch calling, bad pitch setting up, and absolutely no framing to get his guys more strikes.

Its no coincidence Gausman was far and away better against a far better lineup when snyder was catching.

I dont expect any serious responses to this considering matt wieters is jesus on cleets around here but hes hurting this team more than hes helping. Between his bad game in the pitching game and his miserable bat we would be better off trading him for a ToR. He still has that value around the league but that wont last much longer.

And your basing that on the what, 5 games he hasnt caught this year? You think Avilles in Detroit is a superior C over Wieters?

[BohKnowsBmore]

So if we dfa wieters are you suggesting our team era would be under 3.00 for the remainder of the season?

[luismatos4prez]

jesus on cleets

That needs to be on a t-shirt.

[kaerts111]

First off Wieters is the man, but that is interesting perhaps coincidental that Gausman was a totally different pitcher with Chris Snyder behind the plate. If memory serves correctly, I think that Garcia and Synder seem to do well too

[oriolesmagic9]

Bad framing! Bad framing, I tell ya!

[milbest77]

So, according to this argument, last year was an abberration with him behind the plate all year? Yes, Gausman and Garcia both had lousy starts this week, but why not consider the solid starts made by Tillman and Hammel this week when he was catching too? For me, the concern for Wieters lies with his lack of plate discipline and lazy swing and overall approach at the plate.

[sfosfan]

On one hand, Wieters has caught most of the games so this is a small sample size. On the other hand, given the rotation era is so putrid it is quite surprising such a difference exists at all. I'm not entirely sold on the implication the staff pitches better when Wieters isn't catching, but I don't think it nuts either. One would expect the era's to be normalized as the year progresses so let's see what happens.

[section18]

The comments in the opening post have been discussed before on here and on the local sports talk radio stations. Buck knows what's happening when the other guys are catching and he refuses to let our starters stay with the backup catcher 2 games in a row after a good start. We talked during the week about using Snyder today after helping Gausman last week against Detroit. His best game as an Oriole. So what does Buck do? Snyder was designated for assignment Tuesday so the team could activate catcher Taylor Teagarden from the disabled list. He cleared waivers before being optioned to Norfolk. Get him out of here. Can't make Matt look bad. On the post game show Rick Dempsey was asked why he thought Gausman struggled today. He said Kevin mixed his pitches better last Sunday. Kept them off balance. Today he threw too many first pitch fastballs.

The opening post covered the other key things that Matt doesn't do behind the plate. Nobody has mentioned whether he is tipping pitches to hitters by his positioning and how he sets up. There have been a number of games where the hitters were sitting and waiting for a changeup or a fastball inside or outside. I've mentioned this before. There was a game at OP a few weeks ago I was at and we had a hard thrower in the game and the hitters hit off speed pitches far into the night. Wieters stood up on each and looked at the pitcher and gestured like what the ???? How did he know that pitch was coming? He even looked into the other teams dugout like ...are you stealing our signs? How do we solve this problem? Can't we have a veteran catcher tutor him?

His hitting we've also talked about. I've said for two years now he needs to keep both hands on the bat and follow through or all the way around with his swing. Sometimes he holds the bat longer but many times he lets go with one hand before the bat goes across the plate. On the draft comments there is a video of our new catcher 2nd round pick Chance Sisco. The first couple of views show him behind the plate and then he swings the bat. Watch how he completes his swings and keeps both hands on the bat on his follow through.

Because Matt is so tall and slow pitchers are keeping their pitches down around his knees and he continues to hit weak ground balls to 2B. When he gets a pitch that's up he can hit in the air he does okay. He has to be more selective and keep both hands on the bat and he might be surprised with the results.

[milbest77]

The fact they drafted 3 (I think) catchers says something

[oriolesmagic9]

Trade him for a bag of farts.