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Barnaby Graves Veteran All-Star

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I'm not really sure how much I care. His bat just doesn't seem like it's ever going to play outside of catcher, his body is large, so how long will he be a good defensive catcher... that bat just isn't developing for some reason.

But I think it could be one of those things where he leaves and even .250 with 20 home runs seems like a luxury we wish we had back again.

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Can't say I really understand that, but I guess I don't think like Scott Boras. I'd be looking to get myself locked up for 5 or 6 years at a decent deal while my defense is still top notch and there's still hope for my offense. A 30 year old .250 hitter with modest power and slower than molasses who might wind up at 1B/DH within a couple years isn't exactly going to command the kind of 7 to 10 year deal Boras dreams about.

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Can't say I really understand that, but I guess I don't think like Scott Boras. I'd be looking to get myself locked up for 5 or 6 years at a decent deal while my defense is still top notch and there's still hope for my offense. A 30 year old .250 hitter with modest power and slower than molasses who might wind up at 1B/DH within a couple years isn't exactly going to command the kind of 7 to 10 year deal Boras dreams about.

It could be as simple as the money not being right.

My guess is that the plan isn't for Wieters to hit the FA market at 31-32 years old which is what an extension with the O's is going to cause.

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We still have two more years, which will likely be the middle of his peak. Im also fine letting someone else have the back end, while they pay for the production we received.

Shame though something reasonable cant be ironed out to make him a life long Oriole. But we shall see. I dont hold any weight to any reporters' comments anymore.

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They may have had to let Wieters go anyway with what Davis will command and Machado (who they will lock-up early if they're smart). They may have to make a splash for a FA starting pitcher as well at some point. Can't pay everybody.

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Wieters value is as low as it is going to be right now, it is no surprise he doesn't want to sign a long term deal when his offense is at a career low point.

You think the deal offered now won't be there in 2 years regardless of what he does with the bat in between now and then? Of course it will, so what exactly is the point of signing now when you can hope the offense improves over the next 2 years?

The offense stays the same....he still gets more money in 2 years that he gets now. His offense improves, he might DOUBLE the money he is being offered now. It is a win/win situation for him any way you look at it by playing it out.

If he wasn't in a huge offensive slump it might be a different story, the timing just isn't right for anything to happen right now.

And that might not be a bad thing for the Orioles if this is what he is offensively.

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Wieters value is as low as it is going to be right now, it is no surprise he doesn't want to sign a long term deal when his offense is at a career low point.

That whole post...100%. There's zero incentive for Wieters to sign long term. He's at the absolute low of his value right now. The contract he'd get now, he'll get then, barring injury. For Matt, it just makes sense to wait and see if he can up his offensive game.

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I think the Orioles drafted four catchers in the first ten rounds this year for a reason. Hoping to have a replacement for Wieters when he leaves in in two years.

I think we are wise to only offer him a six years. Wieters wont age gracefully.

I would bet we draft catcher pretty heavy next year also.

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