Jump to content

Team believes that Wieters will forego long-term deal


jabba72

Recommended Posts

I definitely think that the Orioles should let him walk when the time comes. His offensive production isn't enough to justify a large contract extension, and he doesn't strike me as the type of player who is likely to age well.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

  • Replies 154
  • Created
  • Last Reply
Sunk cost? How is he a sunk cost? He has provided production well over what they have paid him and are under not obligation to even tender him a contract next season.

I meant the fact that he didn't meet people's expectations when he was a prospect is irrelevant to his his worth now. Maybe the term sunk cost wasn't the best way to say that.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Reynolds single handedly won some games against the Yankees last September. Having a hot month is not the same as carrying the team. I must have been on vacation the week or month when Wieters was carrying our offense on his back. I never said Reynolds carried the team for a month. Yeah, I have my own clear definition of what "carrying a team" is and Wieters has never done it for anything close to a month.

Well, you can define it however you'd like, but in the final 33 games of 2011, Wirters hit 11 homers, carried a 1.005 OPS, and the team finished 21-12 after being 48-81 before that. For me, that's within my definition of carrying a team for a month.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Wieters had 12 homers and 31 RBI over the last 2 months.

Over the same period, Reynolds had 14 homers and 31 RBI.

J.J. Hardy had 12 homer and 35 RBI over the same period.

Noland Reimold had 7 homers and 27 RBI over the same period.

In my opinion, Wieters had two good months. He did not stand head and shoulders above his teammates and did not "carry the team".

Reimold had a .973 OPS in September with 5 homers and 17 RBI in 22 games. Does anyone on here remember him carrying the team?

The team finshed well. It must have been because of Wieters!!!!

Wieters had 7 homers and 32 RBI's over the first two months of this year. He seems to start fast and have a nothing middle and a good ending.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Wieters had 12 homers and 31 RBI over the last 2 months.

Over the same period, Reynolds had 14 homers and 31 RBI.

J.J. Hardy had 12 homer and 35 RBI over the same period.

Noland Reimold had 7 homers and 27 RBI over the same period.

In my opinion, Wieters had two good months. He did not stand head and shoulders above his teammates and did not "carry the team".

Reimold had a .973 OPS in September with 5 homers and 17 RBI in 22 games. Does anyone on here remember him carrying the team?

The team finshed well. It must have been because of Wieters!!!!

Seems to me this is sleight of hand. The statement had to do with "carrying the team for a month". So why are you talking about two months?

In any event, if your point is that Wieters has never carried a team for a month to the extent that Davis has, or to the extent that Reynolds did for two weeks, consider that point conceded. But the point here is that Wieters is capable of getting quite hot, so the folks who are criticizing him for having a sub-.700 OPS right now should realize that his numbers could look very different at the end of the year, and that it's premature to write off Wieters' season. To me, in context, that's all Palmer and Thorne were saying, and there's nothing "moronic" about it, though we'll have to see if Wieters heats up or not.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Archived

This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies.


  • Posts

    • Yeah, basically this, that Westburg's underlying numbers (EV, barrel %, xwOBA) seem to point at this being pretty real, or at least that there's nothing 'undeserved / lucky' about this hot streak, if it's just that. 
    • The problem with a Cowser/Kjerstad/Stowers/Bradfield outfield roster is there are no right handers to handle LHP. I don't think and completely left handed outfield is the destination for an organization the values versatility.
    • Looks maybe concussion related. 
    • How can you not be romantic about baseball? This seems slightly poetic. I enjoyed reading, and correlated your experience in the stands back to what I watch in Game 1 on MASN.  It was also pretty cool to hear Jim Palmer give you a shout out in Game 2 of the series on Live TV.
    • I am not worried.  It just doesn’t remotely meet the eye test.  He has been great in the field . I can think of at least 3 outstanding plays he has made and not any that I thought he should have gotten but didn’t. Meanwhile Holliday is 3 OAA and I can’t think of an outstanding play and can think of a number I thought he should have made. 
    • Nicely stated Roy. Every since I was 9 years old and saw the O's vs. the Tokyo Giants in Tokyo in 1971, I've been infected with the Orange/Black virus. There is no cure and I don't want one. You and I sat at the lunch table with Jim Palmer at the 1970 World Series Champs reunion, and its still one of my enduring baseball memories. You said I looked like Carlton Fisk! I was at all 3 games in this Angels series, right behind the O's dugout. I got to see all our boys, and just simply love to watch this team play. And in true baseball fashion, the one game on paper we should have dominated (GRod vs. 8+ ERA Channing), we end up down 7-0 and lose. But watching Gunnar's homers, his electric triple, and he made a fantastic play today on a ball that went under Westburg's glove, Adley do Adley things, Cowser, holy crap. Kimbrel v. Trout with bases loaded, bottom of 9th, 2 outs, down by 2? That was fun. Next game Trout bats leadoff and torches a GRod fastball for a homer to the opposite field.  An observation.... If you didn't know anything about the team, and you only watched game 1 batting practice, you'd think Cowser and O'Hearn were the studs of the team. Mountcastle was taking BP with the reserves and he put on a show as well.  Home after 3 straight days watching this O's team, so jealous of the Balt fans in Balt that get to see the team with regularity. It's a special bunch.
  • Popular Contributors

×
×
  • Create New...