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The Orioles offered Schoop and Rodriguez for Garza? (Update: No they didn't)

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You think we're equal in terms of amateur expenditures?

No, but the effort is there for us now at least. I wouldn't have said that 3-4 years ago but I think they have a plan now and are heading in the right direction.

In other news, it looks like Betemit might really be done for the year. I'm all about taking on Soriano to lessen the prospect cost in a Garza deal, Henry U or no Henry U.

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No, but the effort is there for us now at least. I wouldn't have said that 3-4 years ago but I think they have a plan now and are heading in the right direction.

In other news, it looks like Betemit might really be done for the year. I'm all about taking on Soriano to lessen the prospect cost in a Garza deal, Henry U or no Henry U.

We're also selling our Intl slots because we clearly aren't authorized to use them. We might be making improvements, but we have a long way to go to even be average, much less in the same category as the Rangers.

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We're also selling our Intl slots because we clearly aren't authorized to use them. We might be making improvements, but we have a long way to go to even be average, much less in the same category as the Rangers.

They traded $461,800 in international slots because they thought Feldman and Liddi could help the team this season. They then signed a guy for $800,000. I don't know how you could possibly come to the conclusion that the Orioles aren't authorized to spend the extra $461,800 when they spent an additional $800,000 and took on Feldman's salary instead.

The Cubs needed the Orioles and Astros slots to blow the top couple players out of the water, the Orioles wouldn't have had a shot at those guys anyway since their initial slots were so low. The Mariners trade was for $73,700 net. If the trade had happened in prior years it would have been for "future considerations" and you never would have heard the results.

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We're also selling our Intl slots because we clearly aren't authorized to use them. We might be making improvements, but we have a long way to go to even be average, much less in the same category as the Rangers.

How is it clear when the Orioles have signed two players to $700K+ contracts, granted not amateur.

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They traded $461,800 in international slots because they thought Feldman and Liddi could help the team this season. They then signed a guy for $800,000. I don't know how you could possibly come to the conclusion that the Orioles aren't authorized to spend the extra $461,800 when they spent an additional $800,000 and took on Feldman's salary instead.

Based on the last couple comments, I think its shoehorning digs at Angelos into the discussion. DD sees the slots as an asset that can be used in exchange for other assets. It's not as though they are being given away.

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Based on the last couple comments, I think its shoehorning digs at Angelos into the discussion. DD sees the slots as an asset that can be used in exchange for other assets. It's not as though they are being given away.

I agree. I leave it to DD to decide how to best deploy the assets at his disposal. He clearly does not have an unlimited budget, but I don't think Angelos is micromanaging this operation. DD decides where to spend the money he has.

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They traded $461,800 in international slots because they thought Feldman and Liddi could help the team this season. They then signed a guy for $800,000. I don't know how you could possibly come to the conclusion that the Orioles aren't authorized to spend the extra $461,800 when they spent an additional $800,000 and took on Feldman's salary instead.

The Cubs needed the Orioles and Astros slots to blow the top couple players out of the water, the Orioles wouldn't have had a shot at those guys anyway since their initial slots were so low. The Mariners trade was for $73,700 net. If the trade had happened in prior years it would have been for "future considerations" and you never would have heard the results.

How is it clear when the Orioles have signed two players to $700K+ contracts, granted not amateur.

Isn't Hector Veloz still the club record for amateur Intl signing? When have the O's ever spent on that? What is the one constant? Maybe clear isn't the best choice of words, but I think it's easy to see the reason.

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That post was in response to a suggestion that it should be almost a no-brainer to trade a top prospect for a guy like Garza. There are cases where I would trade for someone like that, but I'd stop well short of a Bundy or Gausman. Often a team trades away the solution to a problem in pursuit of that solution.

Well the discussion was Schoop & Rodriguez. Look the. Deal has some risk but with the Orioles track record with preparing pitchers and our bad luck with the DL this is a no brainier IMO .

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