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Can_of_corn Hangout Grand Counsel

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If finding value on the International Market means finding guys like Gonzo, Henry U. and EdRod then I'm all for it.

Not picking on you Gordo since a lot of posters are doing it but I personally don't consider Gonzo an international signing. He spent five seasons in the MiLB. To me there is little difference between him being discovered in the Mexican Leagues or being signed off an Independent league team like Lew Ford was.

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If we had signed Yoenis Cespedes everyone would complaining about what a terrible signing it was on the board every day after the season he is having.

Wow, I hadn't even realized how much Cespedes had struggled until you posted this and I looked him up. .225/.293/.420. I guess he needs to face some pitchers who throw at batting practice speed!

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If we had signed Yoenis Cespedes everyone would complaining about what a terrible signing it was on the board every day after the season he is having.

Every advanced statistical metric suggests Cespedes has been unlucky thus far, and he can expect to be very productive in the second half. He'll likely wind up with 27+ homers, 80+ RBI's, and an .800+ OPS. He'll still be easily outperforming his contract.

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Every advanced statistical metric suggests Cespedes has been unlucky thus far, and he can expect to be very productive in the second half. He'll likely wind up with 27+ homers, 80+ RBI's, and an .800+ OPS. He'll still be easily outperforming his contract.

Do you seriously think that would stop people from blasting the signing were he an Oriole?

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Wow, I hadn't even realized how much Cespedes had struggled until you posted this and I looked him up. .225/.293/.420. I guess he needs to face some pitchers who throw at batting practice speed!

He is having a Mark Reynolds season.

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Oh, you think the budget SHRUNK under DD?

Come now. That's laughable.

The budget is what the front office has made it. Dan simply spent what money was available in ways that he thought would have a higher impact before 2018. A reasonable approach. 16 year old Dominicans can have a big upside. But they usually can't contribute for five years even if the do hit. And in cases like David Ortiz, ten years. For another organization. The PED scandal will take some more bloom off the DR Rose.

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The budget is what the front office has made it. Dan simply spent what money was available in ways that he thought would have a higher impact before 2018. A reasonable approach. 16 year old Dominicans can have a big upside. But they usually can't contribute for five years even if the do hit. And in cases like David Ortiz, ten years. For another organization. The PED scandal will take some more bloom off the DR Rose.

So what is he doing differently than AM? Which was my point.

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Although not signing some of the high bonus guys, isn't it pretty well documented that he's deployed more scouts to more areas?

Not as I recall.

Unless you mean getting us booted from S Korea.

I'm not complaining what DD is doing. But I'm saying, by and large, he's doing just what AM did.

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Not as I recall.

Unless you mean getting us booted from S Korea.

I'm not complaining what DD is doing. But I'm saying, by and large, he's doing just what AM did.

Well we could resolve this issue if we knew how many international signings DD has made since he has been here, and how many occurred under AM. Do you know?
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Well we could resolve this issue if we knew how many international signings DD has made since he has been here, and how many occurred under AM. Do you know?

Since Gonzalez was not an international signing, and Urrutia was old enough to be considered an actual free agent, It would be a difficult task.

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