Brian Roberts

[LA2]

Indulging in some gallows's humor with Roberts' and Reimold's injury history is a far cry from mocking.

You're setting a pretty high bar for what is or isn't mockery. I definitely think that Roberts was ridiculed and talked about in very scornful terms.

[LA2]

Where did that come from?

He was talking about Roberts.

Not culpable for what he wrote--his stomach was turning.

[xKHx]

Also Roberts has a UZR of 1.6 now so what does that say about his defense? hah

[xKHx]

Also Roberts has a UZR of 1.6 now so what does that say about his defense? hah

He also has better AB's/Avg/OBP/OPS then anyone that has played 2nd base position this year for the O's.....

[Can_of_corn]

Also Roberts has a UZR of 1.6 now so what does that say about his defense? hah

It says that Fangraphs likes his defense a lot more then baseball reference does (-.3 dWAR)

[weams]

I confess. I never believed that Brian Roberts could stay healthy. Let alone play at a league average level. And I did mock his production during his current contract. I never wanted him to be in that dark, dark, place that he found himself after self injuring twice. It must have been awful for him and those close to him.

[MarylandAaron]

I was one of his doubters/scoffers. But I admit I was wrong. It's good to see him back playing well and I hope he keeps it up.

[Frobby]

It says that Fangraphs likes his defense a lot more then baseball reference does (-.3 dWAR)

Even if you go with dWAR, his defense hasn't been as tragic as some projected, and seems to be improving (-.8 in July, +.5 in August).

[George Zuverink]

The posts I remember most vividly are the ones cynically accusing Roberts about taking his millions and pretending that he was hurt too badly to play, about not caring about what happened to the O's. Anyone who denies the existence of those posts is indulging in highly selective memory, I.e., lying. Those posts went beyond criticism and mockery. Black humor and mockery was sometimes the nicest treatment he received.

Now let's hear the defenders of that behavior talk about how a chat board is a place where passionate fans can express their opinions and vent.

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[calmunderfire]

The real question is will the team offer him a one year deal this offseason?

The better not. He's a replacement level player.

[tntoriole]

I was always a BRob supporter and often said "Comeback Player of the Year". Let's see if he can get himself a ring! Go Os!

[LA2]

The posts I remember most vividly are the ones cynically accusing Roberts about taking his millions and pretending that he was hurt too badly to play, about not caring about what happened to the O's. Anyone who denies the existence of those posts is indulging in highly selective memory, I.e., lying. Those posts went beyond criticism and mockery. Black humor and mockery was sometimes the nicest treatment he received.

Now let's hear the defenders of that behavior talk about how a chat board is a place where passionate fans can express their opinions and vent.

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Bravo! The truth, pointedly expressed.

[Can_of_corn]

The posts I remember most vividly are the ones cynically accusing Roberts about taking his millions and pretending that he was hurt too badly to play, about not caring about what happened to the O's. Anyone who denies the existence of those posts is indulging in highly selective memory, I.e., lying. Those posts went beyond criticism and mockery. Black humor and mockery was sometimes the nicest treatment he received.

Now let's hear the defenders of that behavior talk about how a chat board is a place where passionate fans can express their opinions and vent.

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I freely admitted there were some crackpot posters out there. I took umbrage at the idea that "many posters mocked" Roberts. Maybe I am just old and thick skinned but making a quip about Roberts or Reimold and the DL, or a joke about Wieters being slow isn't mocking in my book.

Mocking- to attack or treat with ridicule, contempt, or derision.

I don't think the over/under till DL joke was any of the above.

[OFFNY]

The posts I remember most vividly are the ones cynically accusing Roberts about taking his millions and pretending that he was hurt too badly to play, about not caring about what happened to the O's. Anyone who denies the existence of those posts is indulging in highly selective memory, I.e., lying. Those posts went beyond criticism and mockery. Black humor and mockery was sometimes the nicest treatment he received.

Now, let's hear the defenders of that behavior talk about how a chat board is a place where passionate fans can express their opinions and vent.

I agree with this.

The only thing that we didn't see in the derision of Roberts was an actual poll, like we saw here with Tommy Hunter:

http://forum.orioleshangout.com/forums/showthread.php/131702-Tommy-Hunter-nickname-poll

[mdbdotcom]

I pretty much stayed away from commenting on Roberts while he was out, mainly because I was against signing him to a four-year deal and it just seemed like it would be piling on. I never thought he was dogging it, and I'm happy for him that he has been able to play and contribute. He does get some key hits, but overall his contribution isn't outstanding. Some people seem to take it as a sign that "he's back" when he gets a big hit or turns a good play, but you don't need a scout's eye or a ream of statistics to see he is not the player he used to be.