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DrungoHazewood Hangout Grand Counsel

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You have to give Bowie some credit, Finely trying to fire sell his players was something you expect to see in the movies, the Major Leagues the prequel. That wasn't for the good of the game.

Why wasn't it good for the game? It worked fine for the game when the Sox sold Ruth to the Yanks. Or when the IL Orioles sold Lefty Grove to the A's. Or when Chicago sold King Kelly to Boston. In soccer it's common for a team to sell a star to a big club then use the proceeds to buy a bushel basket of new talent to replace him (see, Tottenham Hotspurs and Gareth Bale).

I think Bowie Kuhn was just mad that Finley wasn't running his team the way he wanted him to run the team and used his powers to stop it. I'm not a big fan of vetoing other peoples' actions because you don't like them.

Not everything he did was good, but at least he was doing stuff, this commish is spineless and a puppet for the owners.

Which is worse, a spineless puppet for the owners, or Kuhn who was a strong-willed advocate of the owners' position? You're never going to have another commish who is impartial, standing between the owners and the MLBPA and deciding what's best for the game and the fans.

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Why wasn't it good for the game? It worked fine for the game when the Sox sold Ruth to the Yanks. Or when the IL Orioles sold Lefty Grove to the A's. Or when Chicago sold King Kelly to Boston. In soccer it's common for a team to sell a star to a big club then use the proceeds to buy a bushel basket of new talent to replace him (see, Tottenham Hotspurs and Gareth Bale).

I think Bowie Kuhn was just mad that Finley wasn't running his team the way he wanted him to run the team and used his powers to stop it. I'm not a big fan of vetoing other peoples' actions because you don't like them.

Which is worse, a spineless puppet for the owners, or Kuhn who was a strong-willed advocate of the owners' position? You're never going to have another commish who is impartial, standing between the owners and the MLBPA and deciding what's best for the game and the fans.

You make a lot of sense.

I just think the sale of all those players (six) for cash at one time was wrong. Not like it was just one player.

I think it was more Finely was mad at Kuhn and the future free agency, that he thought was going to ruin baseball, and he was going to get his money out of the team.

how do you think the A's fans were feeling about their team at the time? What would have the A's fielded a AAA team? Which is why I said Major Leagues Prequel.

I know my grandfather was a big A's fan and was livid to the point, he canceled his season tickets, which is maybe why I remember this incident

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how do you think the A's fans were feeling about their team at the time? What would have the A's fielded a AAA team? Which is why I said Major Leagues Prequel.

I know my grandfather was a big A's fan and was livid to the point, he canceled his season tickets, which is maybe why I remember this incident

The A's did field a AAA team shortly thereafter. In 1979 they went 54-108. They just traded away everyone instead of selling them. I don't see the difference.

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The A's did field a AAA team shortly thereafter. In 1979 they went 54-108. They just traded away everyone instead of selling them. I don't see the difference.

They did too, thanks, dang, forgot all about that.

Sorry back in 79, I was barely able to follow the Orioles, working two jobs and raising a family. :)

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