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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p>Lincecum gets $35M for two years from <a href="https://twitter.com/search?q=%23SFGiants&src=hash">#SFGiants</a>, according to source. Dollars first reported by <a href="https://twitter.com/JonHeymanCBS">@JonHeymanCBS</a>.</p>— Ken Rosenthal (@Ken_Rosenthal) <a href="

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I guess they are in the best position to know if he can make a comeback.

Sure seems like a lot to me.

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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p>Lincecum gets $35M for two years from <a href="https://twitter.com/search?q=%23SFGiants&src=hash">#SFGiants</a>, according to source. Dollars first reported by <a href="https://twitter.com/JonHeymanCBS">@JonHeymanCBS</a>.</p>— Ken Rosenthal (@Ken_Rosenthal) <a href="
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I guess they are in the best position to know if he can make a comeback.

Sure seems like a lot to me.

Way too much money for what he has shown recently.

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The Giants always seem to have a couple horrendous contracts going.

Makes me resent the multiple recent rings even more as they don't appear to be a particularly well run franchise.

Well, their pitching has been stout. And they always have a journeyman or two that has a career season. Plus the fact that SF is the HOME of Bondsian chemical enhancement.

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I don't think Timay is worth this, I think Josh Johnson may be worth nothing.

You wouldn't take a flyer on him for roughly 1/4 of Lincecum's annual salary? Say $4.5million? That seems low, not that I'd pay more but if the market falls for his services and we could get him cheaply I'd do it. He was still touching 96 mph last year.

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I don't think Timay is worth this, I think Josh Johnson may be worth nothing.

Josh scares me a lot. Unless it's a surprisingly low deal, like if it's middle of January and no deals yet, then I'd take a flyer.

e: And not for 4.5. More like 2 with kind of easy incentives to push it to 4.5 or 5. Put up and we'll pay you.

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Josh scares me a lot. Unless it's a surprisingly low deal, like if it's middle of January and no deals yet, then I'd take a flyer.

e: And not for 4.5. More like 2 with kind of easy incentives to push it to 4.5 or 5. Put up and we'll pay you.

Oh, definitely an incentive laden deal, but he has far more upside than Jurrjens did.

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Oh, definitely an incentive laden deal, but he has far more upside than Jurrjens did.

Jurrjens is kind of a bad call. Is and isn't...

Anyways... Johnson's health worries me. A lot. Like 50%. But his... stuff... worries me more! He seems to be all or nothing. Cy Young or worthless. No middle ground. A conundrum wrapped in an enigma cloaked in chocolate. #lefttwix

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This sums it up well: http://mlb.si.com/2013/10/22/giants-tim-lincecum-contract-extension/?sct=mlb_t2_a8

This signing doesn't make much sense at all and will probably just spike the salaries for any other pitcher available.....wonderful.

I agree.

Hardball says to not freak out, but dang, how can you not?

http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/10/23/let-us-not-freak-out-about-free-agent-salaries-ok/

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3.74 FIP, 3.56 xFIP this year and 4.18 FIP, 3.82 xFIP last year. I don't know if that's worth the money he just got but given his periphs there's some reason to believe he could be a 3 WAR pitcher (which is approximately what is he going to be paid as).

But as the SI article spells out nicely, his stuff is worse. And I don't see why they wouldn't just give him a qualifying offer.

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3.74 FIP, 3.56 xFIP this year and 4.18 FIP, 3.82 xFIP last year. I don't know if that's worth the money he just got but given his periphs there's some reason to believe he could be a 3 WAR pitcher (which is approximately what is he going to be paid as).

But as the SI article spells out nicely, his stuff is worse. And I don't see why they wouldn't just give him a qualifying offer.

I don't think that it was an X's and O's decision.

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