It seems at least likely that Wieters gets traded.

[weams]

Carlos Ruiz re-signed with the Phillies.

Three years. 26 million. Club option for fourth.

[weams]

Carlos Ruiz re-signed with the Phillies.

Three years. 26 million. Club option for fourth.

I'd say Wieters would have value.

[spneca]

Carlos Ruiz re-signed with the Phillies.

Three years. 26 million. Club option for fourth.

Wow. What are they doing? First Byrd, now a 3 year deal for a 34 year old catcher? They were already an old team.

[Can_of_corn]

Wow. What are they doing? First Byrd, now a 3 year deal for a 34 year old catcher? They were already an old team.

They don't realize that the window has closed.

[Ripken]

Phillies continue to give out horrible contracts.

[markakis8]

He had a .704 OPS this year and .739 for his career. Two more years of catching 150 games. Is .650 really that extreme a possibility?

Yes, it is extreme. There is a HUGE difference between .704 and .650.

He had an awful year at the plate but he still came with some power and for that, he's always going to have a slugging of .400...do you really see his OBP at .250 or below? C'mon.

[FlaO'sFan]

According to Olney, the O's tried to strike up extension talks for Wieters in Spring Training 2013 and were flabbergasted by a counter-offer in the range of Joe Mauer's eight-year, $184MM deal with the Twins. Coming off the worst offensive season of his career, the price is likely down, but that contractual demand shows that the two sides "are speaking a different languague in negotiations," as Olney puts it.

Lmao. Nice knowing you, Matt.

[twinedenter]

This is such a no-brainer to me, I am not sure why all the discussion. Weiters/Boras are asking for 20 mil per. I think Weiters is worth 12-13 a year and it sounds like the O's are around the same number. The disparity is so great that a deal is nearly impossible. He isn't close to as good as Yadier Molina who makes 15mil per.

The time to trade him is now with 2 years left before free agency.

Let's face it guys, Wieters hits pretty much like a backup catcher (Mark Parent anyone?). Weiters hits for a low average and has good power. He is dog slow on the bases and doesn't move runners. His defense just doesn't justify paying FAR above value.

[MurphDogg]

Let's face it guys, Wieters hits pretty much like a backup catcher (Mark Parent anyone?).

There is no place in rational discussion for this kind of rhetoric.

[VeveJones007]

- MLB Trade Rumors

Certainly doesn't sound like an extension is on the horizon. Classic Boras.

Lends more weight to my theory.

[JayThomas]

I think it is obvious that no deal that Wieters agrees to while Scott Boras is his agent will be good value for the Orioles ... and that for a mid-market team like the Orioles who can only afford a couple of major contracts, Wieters will therefore not be with the team after 2015.

The question is, can we add the pieces that we need to make a high-probability run over the next 2 years while this core is in place and then be OK beyond 2015 with just picks replacing Wieters (and for the sake of argument, Davis)? If the answer to either or both of those questions is no, then moving Wieters (higher priority) makes a lot of sense if what comes back helps us significantly after 2016 and hopefully over the next 2 years.

I have to imagine that there is enough of a market for Wieters with 2 years left of control for Duquette to get something like that back for Matt. Therefore, I think he will be gone this offseason. I think Duq can see this for what it is and won't be sitting on his hands playing out the string (with Wieters' and Davis' contracts) unless he is able to somehow make some serious upgrades elsewhere and make this a more competitive team for the next 2 years.

[SerenityNow]

Let's face it guys, Wieters hits pretty much like a backup catcher

Fascinating. A backup catcher, really?

[weams]

There is no place in rational discussion for this kind of rhetoric.

Nope. None. It is indefensible.

[SoBo]

If the reports are true that Wieters is looking for a Joe Mauer deal its not shocking DD is shopping him. I'm a big Wieters fan but a Mauer deal is a joke. At least Mauer has the bat to move to first base now that he can't physically handle catching. Wieters' bat? Ummm, no.

[Scrat1]

Option A: Trade him after a relatively down year, but while healthy and with 2 years left.

Option B: Hope he stays healthy and productive over the next 2 years and get a pick for him.

Each has risk. What will the O's do?

There's also Option C: Hang onto him for 2014, hope for a bump in production and trade him when he's got one year left.

The best option depends almost entirely on the market.