CaptainRedbeard Posted November 22, 2013 Share Posted November 22, 2013 The Royals just DFA'd George Kottaras to make room for Jason Vargas on their 40-man roster. A first glance at George Kottaras' numbers might make you say "yuck," or something along those lines, but if you dig a little deeper you'll see he might be a very good fit with the Orioles. First: Kottaras is a lefty and he hits righties better than lefties. This is a crucial factor that we want in our backup catcher, because Wieters' bat is so much better vs lefties, so we pretty much only want his off days to come against right handed pitching. The free agent market for backup catchers has exactly zero left handed swinging catchers, by my estimation. Kottaras has a career 101 wRC+ in 647 PA vs. right handed pitching. Second: Walks! Kottaras may be a terrible .214 career hitter but he has an otherworldly 14.0% career BB% in the majors, and strong rates in the minors as well. That takes that .214 batting average all the way up to a .324 OBP. That even comes with a .192 ISO, which is definitely solid. Altogether, that is a very solid offensive player for a backup catcher. I'll admit I don't know much about his defense, but if he has even an average reputation I want him on the club. He does have a pretty bad CS% at the ML level but that's only one part of the puzzle. He fits the offensive profile of what we want as a backup behind Wieters and even provides a nice little focus on OBP, which we know DD wants to bring in. In any case, he has more a major league track record than Clevenger, and probably at least as good as a defensive reputation. Furthermore, if we trade Wieters, we are going to want at least one left handed hitting catcher. Ideally we could get Saltalamacchia or Pierzynski, but that might not be in the cards. If we miss out on those two, pairing Kottaras in part time with a righty like Suzuki, Buck, or Navarro (switch but better as a RH hitter), would be a fair fallback option. Our backup catchers have been abysmal for years now. It's one of the reasons that we have to ride Wieters into the ground every year. DD and Buck are all about depth but we need to strengthen the ML bench for that to happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Helmet Posted November 22, 2013 Share Posted November 22, 2013 The Royals just DFA'd George Kottaras to make room for Jason Vargas on their 40-man roster. A first glance at George Kottaras' numbers might make you say "yuck," or something along those lines, but if you dig a little deeper you'll see he might be a very good fit with the Orioles.First: Kottaras is a lefty and he hits righties better than lefties. This is a crucial factor that we want in our backup catcher, because Wieters' bat is so much better vs lefties, so we pretty much only want his off days to come against right handed pitching. The free agent market for backup catchers has exactly zero left handed swinging catchers, by my estimation. Kottaras has a career 101 wRC+ in 647 PA vs. right handed pitching. Second: Walks! Kottaras may be a terrible .214 career hitter but he has an otherworldly 14.0% career BB% in the majors, and strong rates in the minors as well. That takes that .214 batting average all the way up to a .324 OBP. That even comes with a .192 ISO, which is definitely solid. Altogether, that is a very solid offensive player for a backup catcher. I'll admit I don't know much about his defense, but if he has even an average reputation I want him on the club. He does have a pretty bad CS% at the ML level but that's only one part of the puzzle. He fits the offensive profile of what we want as a backup behind Wieters and even provides a nice little focus on OBP, which we know DD wants to bring in. In any case, he has more a major league track record than Clevenger, and probably at least as good as a defensive reputation. Furthermore, if we trade Wieters, we are going to want at least one left handed hitting catcher. Ideally we could get Saltalamacchia or Pierzynski, but that might not be in the cards. If we miss out on those two, pairing Kottaras in part time with a righty like Suzuki, Buck, or Navarro (switch but better as a RH hitter), would be a fair fallback option. Our backup catchers have been abysmal for years now. It's one of the reasons that we have to ride Wieters into the ground every year. DD and Buck are all about depth but we need to strengthen the ML bench for that to happen. Just assume go with Clevenger. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bahama O's Fan Posted November 22, 2013 Share Posted November 22, 2013 Second: Walks! Kottaras may be a terrible .214 career hitter but he has an otherworldly 14.0% career BB% in the majors, and strong rates in the minors as well. That takes that .214 batting average all the way up to a .324 OBP. That even comes with a .192 ISO, which is definitely solid. This line so reminded me of the scene in Moneyball when Pitt (Beane) is discussing players and the scouts keep knocking names down and he keeps saying "They get on base" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Il BuonO Posted November 22, 2013 Share Posted November 22, 2013 Just assume go with Clevenger. I'd just as soon go with the guy who had the ML numbers to justify the job as a backup. I'm not sure Clevenger gets the chance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waroriole Posted November 22, 2013 Share Posted November 22, 2013 Not a bad idea for a backup. I'll be very surprised if Wieters is traded. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptainRedbeard Posted November 22, 2013 Author Share Posted November 22, 2013 I'd just as soon go with the guy who had the ML numbers to justify the job as a backup. I'm not sure Clevenger gets the chance. Yeah if the choice is between Kottaras and Clevenger, Kottaras is the clear choice. Not to mention, by my count Clevenger has an option remaining, so we can have both and keep him in AAA for depth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Gordo Posted November 22, 2013 Share Posted November 22, 2013 Just assume go with Clevenger.Why would you assume that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Babypowder Posted November 22, 2013 Share Posted November 22, 2013 I like it. If we picked him up, we'd have to be one of the only teams to field 2 players at the same time who've hit broken bat homers. That's a bonus right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mdbdotcom Posted November 22, 2013 Share Posted November 22, 2013 Why would you assume that? Well, he'd just as soon assume, I assume. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Gordo Posted November 22, 2013 Share Posted November 22, 2013 Well, he'd just as soon assume, I assume.You know what they say about people who assume. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Il BuonO Posted November 22, 2013 Share Posted November 22, 2013 Well, he'd just as soon assume, I assume. So, you make an ass of "u" and me when he makes one of you and him? :wedge: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tx Oriole Posted November 22, 2013 Share Posted November 22, 2013 I'd just as soon go with the guy who had the ML numbers to justify the job as a backup. I'm not sure Clevenger gets the chance. Just say no to Clevenger. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptainRedbeard Posted November 26, 2013 Author Share Posted November 26, 2013 A smart organization, the Cubs, picked him up for cash considerations. A missed opportunity IMO. Maybe Theo reads the OH. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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