Churchill's latest - M's don't want to trade Jones?

[JTrea81]

After exchanging emails with a person connected to the trade discussions between the Baltimore Orioles and the Seattle Mariners, I've learned that maybe the reason a deal has not been consummated is not what we've been led to believe up to this point.

Thus far it's appeared that the Orioles' demand for either Brandon Morrow, Carlos Triunfel or even Chris Tillman to be included may have held a deal up for the past few weeks. But perhaps that's not true, says the source.

"It's Adam Jones. I don't think they (Seattle) are sure about giving him up."

The two clubs are apparently keeping the lines of communication open, but no deal is imminent.

http://prospectinsider.com/2008/01/14/bedard-jones-update/

You've got to be kidding me? Why are we even bothering with Seattle then?

[JTrea81]

BTW Law said the same thing today in a chat:

rturk89 says:

January 17th, 2008 at 1:04 pm

Kyle (OH): What’s the hangup on the O’s-Mariners deal? How does Adam Jones project?

Keith Law: (2:17 PM ET ) Sounds like Jones is the hangup - O’s want him, M’s don’t want to part with him. Mind you I’ve been out of the loop for a week. Jones is a star, everyday CF (not in Seattle, of course) with a plus arm, plus power, quick bat, some question about his future OBP.

http://prospectinsider.com/2008/01/14/bedard-jones-update/#comment-6515

[Peace21]

After exchanging emails with a person connected to the trade discussions between the Baltimore Orioles and the Seattle Mariners, I've learned that maybe the reason a deal has not been consummated is not what we've been led to believe up to this point.

Thus far it's appeared that the Orioles' demand for either Brandon Morrow, Carlos Triunfel or even Chris Tillman to be included may have held a deal up for the past few weeks. But perhaps that's not true, says the source.

"It's Adam Jones. I don't think they (Seattle) are sure about giving him up."

The two clubs are apparently keeping the lines of communication open, but no deal is imminent.

http://prospectinsider.com/2008/01/14/bedard-jones-update/

You've got to be kidding me? Why are we even bothering with Seattle then?

Sounds like MacPhail is waiting it out, and letting the M's figure out what they want to do. Of course their isnt any rush for MacPhail to deal Bedard. And no one else is offering and Adam Jones type player.

[Sports Guy]

If Jones and others aren't on the table, then Morrow, Wlad, Triunfel and Tillman need to be IMO.

[markakis4pres]

Bedard is the OD starter

BTW, since we are playing Seattle in the 2nd series, It would be awesome if Bedard pitched a no hitter against them.

[markpolis]

First, they don't want to trade Morrow. Now they don't want to trade Jones.

Perhaps we should just give them Bedard for nothing.

[birrman54]

Sounds like MacPhail is waiting it out, and letting the M's figure out what they want to do. Of course their isnt any rush for MacPhail to deal Bedard. And no one else is offering and Adam Jones type player.

Haven't the Cards said Colby Rasmus is on the table? IMO he's at least on Jones' level.

If the Mariners aren't ready to deal Jones they can't possibly be serious about acquiring Bedard.

[Peace21]

Haven't the Cards said Colby Rasmus is on the table? IMO he's at least on Jones' level.

If the Mariners aren't ready to deal Jones they can't possibly be serious about acquiring Bedard.

Just playing devils advocate.

[JTrea81]

I think it's time to step up negotiations with the Angels if they've been dormant. If we trade Bedard to the Angels, Seattle has no chance for the next two years...

[birdsfan4ever]

I think it's time to step up negotiations with the Angels if they've been dormant...

Yeah if we call the Angels now maybe we can get something done with them before the trade deadline.

[oandb21]

If Jones and others aren't on the table, then Morrow, Wlad, Triunfel and Tillman need to be IMO.

I would do that, even Morrow, Wlad, Truinfel would get it done for me.

[Peace21]

Jtrea do you think this news is old, and Seattle has let up and are for trading Jones. Or is this news like two hours ago?

[Ruzious]

Jtrea do you think this news is old, and Seattle has let up and are for trading Jones. Or is this news like two hours ago?

None of this is news. It's all rumor and supposition.

[JTrea81]

Jtrea do you think this news is old, and Seattle has let up and are for trading Jones. Or is this news like two hours ago?

This is current news IMO. It makes sense though, Seattle was probably ready to trade him this weekend so they yanked him from Winter Ball and then backed out so they let him play again. It now appears that the holdup is on Seattle's end. We are ready to trade Bedard to the M's IMO, but are still waiting for Seattle to make up their mind.

We need to force their hand by starting to intensify talks with the Angels. If they land Bedard, Seattle has no chance at that division despite all the money they've sunk into that team. You would think Seattle wouldn't want that...

[dabirds]

Interesting. So maybe there was a pending deal (Jones pulled from Winter Ball) and the MARINERS pulled out of it and not the Orioles. Maybe MacPhail isn't the holdup after all. Looks like cold feet to me.