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Talks with the Dodgers centered around Kemp/Ethier


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It is indisputable that JJ to the Dodgers was in play. It is also well known that the Dodger's have a glut of overpriced OF's and may be willing to move one. For some reason the potential deal with the Dodger's crashed...PA has been known to be the deal crasher-in-chief for many transactions warranting a financial commitment by the O's. Thus, the theory seems plausible to me.

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I heard the following and it seems plausible enough to me that I tend think the logic is close:

Dodgers are/were willing to pickup/offset some of that Kemp money for a return in talent to balance. Dodgers were very excited to maybe move Ethier, and Os were not as excited. Markakis name may have been involved with JJ and who knows what else for Kemp, but regardless some in LA media believe P.A. Nixed some kind of deal DD liked because of some monetary reason. DD went back to Dodgers to try and counter a bit more and that discussion crumbled quickly.

The Markakis mention seems the most rumormongering portion of the theory to me, simply because of somewhat well publicized PA Greek connection there are plenty of people that could come up with that out of thin air. Plus, if the Dodgers want to move Ethier what would they want w Markakis.

I am not claiming to have information outside of a theory a LA media buddy (editor not a writer or anyone who covers this stuff himself) who he himself was explaining to me this morning what he had heard from other media 2nd,3rd hand.

Wanted to share because I like so many on here am really down about the state of affairs in the warehouse. I believe I am quite moderate and maybe even have been a little to optimistic about a potential change once revenue and talent rose. Not calling for a spending spree but creative trades like these are what I would expect way more then a free agent splash, and if there is any truth at all that a reasonable financial and talent deal was struck and we simply aren't allowed to play that game, well...

P.S. hell no to Ethier unless LA wanted to pay him to play for us is my opinion.

There is a lot of friend of a friend of a friend stuff here so I don't know how much credence I would put into this. Nevertheless, it wouldn't surprise me if it's true.

Agree with you on Ethier.

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There is a lot of friend of a friend of a friend stuff here so I don't know how much credence I would put into this. Nevertheless, it wouldn't surprise me if it's true.

Agree with you on Ethier.

Ha...The part that doesn't fit is Dan should know better than to bring such financial non-sense to PA's office. Dan's Christmas bonus will be reduced accordingly to send a message.

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There is a lot of friend of a friend of a friend stuff here so I don't know how much credence I would put into this. Nevertheless, it wouldn't surprise me if it's true.

Agree with you on Ethier.

Agree about the who knows what if any is accurate. And I didn't write my buddy's website in the post specifically because this was just he and I talking, not news, not inside info, ect, but wanted to share and probably just wanted to vent as well.

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Well then my 2014 O's budget might be $0. I am sick of it. I'll give my money to the other team in town that obviously cares about winning.

There is no other team in town. And if it is someone else's team, enjoy giving them money for their roof.

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... some in LA media believe P.A. Nixed some kind of deal DD liked because of some monetary reason. DD went back to Dodgers to try and counter a bit more and that discussion crumbled quickly.

Well. Now that it is on the internet, I am sure that this will become a source for future discussion ;)

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I would have liked Kemp but I would not want to be obligated to pay him $128mm. I am reluctant to judge this non-move without understanding how much (if any) the Dodgers were willing to send with him.

That said, just knowing (without context) that we could have had Kemp and ended up with Weeks is pretty disappointing.

The Kemp deal would have been a massive risk if we were taking on that cash. Very few teams in baseball would take that contract right now. I don't think the failure to make that trade says anything about the Orioles commitment to winning.

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You absolutely do.

1. Post in thread defending the Orioles actions regardless of what it is

2. State your disdain for spending any amount of money on good players (or any players, for that matter)

3. Make sarcastic remark to someone replying to you, even when they raise solid points/arguments

4. Make another sarcastic remark and close the thread without giving them a chance to respond

I am not big on criticizing the team I root for. I tend to get quiet about things I have problems with.

I am fine with spending money on good players. Very few make it to free agency. I was very happy with the Adam Jones deal.

I am occasional sarcastic. Usually more frequently with people who poke sticks at me.

I am not much of a thread closer. Perhaps someone shut the door behind me.

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