Schmuck calls out the Orioles!

[Il BuonO]

Rhetoric

Exactly right. Remember this is the first owner who's seen fit to extend Buck for any decent length of time. What was he going to do, turn around and say something contrary to the way Angelos has run the team for the last 15 years? Not much has changed except that the baseball people running things are better equipped to deal with his tight fisted ownership.

[OriolesMagic83]

Its hard to believe the O's are under such strict "budget constraints" when the Nationals had a $118 million payroll last year, and will probably increase it to $130 mill+ this year. The Nationals only get a small piece of the MASN pie too. The Nats GM and owner should be complaining twice what the O's do about their money shortages. I am interested in whether the O's will do more than talk this offseason, because money talks but bulls**t walks.

[weams]

Its hard to believe the O's are under such strict "budget constraints" when the Nationals had a $118 million payroll last year, and will probably increase it to $130 mill+ this year. The Nationals only get a small piece of the MASN pie too. The Nats GM and owner should be complaining twice what the O's do about their money shortages. I am interested in whether the O's will do more than talk this offseason, because money talks but bulls**t walks.

They can go back to Montreal if they don't like it here. Take off. Eh.

[Guest]

http://www.baltimoresun.com/sports/schmuck-blog/bal-orioles-ownership-fingerprints-all-over-jim-johnson-trade-20131205,0,1864647.story?track=rss&utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter

He's at it again.

[Can_of_corn]

http://www.baltimoresun.com/sports/schmuck-blog/bal-orioles-ownership-fingerprints-all-over-jim-johnson-trade-20131205,0,1864647.story?track=rss&utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter

He's at it again.

Did this:

There’s really no other explanation for that, considering Dan Duquette announced unequivocally in late September that Johnson would be tendered a contract and would enter the 2014 season as the Orioles closer.

ever actually happen?

I don't remember DD unequivocally stating that Johnson would be an O in 2014.

[TonySoprano]

Did this:

ever actually happen?

I don't remember DD unequivocally stating that Johnson would be an O in 2014.

Orioles executive vice president Dan Duquette confirmed this afternoon that the Orioles will tender a contract to closer Jim Johnson for the 2014 season, viewing him as part of a core group that he wants to keep in Baltimore.

Johnson's status was uncertain after nine blown saves and the prospect of receiving another substantial raise from the $6.5 million he's earning this season. That's a significant chunk of money for a ninth inning specialist.

"Jim Johnson is one of our core players," Duquette said during batting practice.

So, the intention is to bring back Johnson next season?

"Yes, it is," Duquette said.

source - Roch Kubatko

[Can_of_corn]

I believe he said they would definitely be offering a contract to Johnson specifically. This is a tough read from Schmuck, man. Don't like what I'm reading one bit.

I agree that Dan said he would be tendering him a contract, that I remember. I don't remember him stating the Johnson would be pitching for the O's in 2014.

Pretty sure it didn't happen.

Other then that the article was pretty good for Schmuck.

[weams]

Did this:

ever actually happen?

I don't remember DD unequivocally stating that Johnson would be an O in 2014.

Duquette told Brittany Ghiroli of MLB.com yesterday that the team fully intends to tender him a contract for 2014.

“Jim Johnson is one of our core players,” said Duquette, who has emphasized keeping that core intact for the organization to sustain success. “Jimmy has done something historic in terms of the numbers of games he’s saved over the last couple years, so he’s established significant value. He came into the job last year, I think he had nine saves in his career, and over the last two years, he has over 100, 99.”

[Can_of_corn]

source - Roch Kubatko

Thanks Tony.

I would still read that as something a bit less then "unequivocal" since the term "Intent" was used.

[TonySoprano]

Thanks Tony.

I would still read that as something a bit less then "unequivocal" since the term "Intent" was used.

Are we going to get into a depends on what the meaning of the word "is" is sidebar? If so, then who knows if he meant "Jim Johnson is one of our core players.

[TiredofLosing20]

Just a thought here but does announcing that they are non-tendering him a contract maybe devalue him in a possible trade.

[Can_of_corn]

Are we going to get into a depends on what the meaning of the word "is" is sidebar? If so, then who knows if he meant "Jim Johnson is one of our core players.

I have no desire to get into a fight about it at all.

I just don't think Dan is the type to make unequivocal declarations about things. I figured he left himself some wiggle room.

That was the only observation I was making.

Bit surprised he made a strong a statement as he did.

[Guest]

Just a thought here but does announcing that they are non-tendering him a contract maybe devalue him in a possible trade.

No the 10.8m he was gonna get did that.

[weams]

I have no desire to get into a fight about it at all.

I just don't think Dan is the type to make unequivocal declarations about things. I figured he left himself some wiggle room.

That was the only observation I was making.

Bit surprised he made a strong a statement as he did.

Russell Smouse has no idea who Jim Johnson is, and what a groundball dependent closer is.

[TonySoprano]

I have no desire to get into a fight about it at all.

I just don't think Dan is the type to make unequivocal declarations about things. I figured he left himself some wiggle room.

That was the only observation I was making.

Bit surprised he made a strong a statement as he did.

In fairness, my translation of his quote is he wanted to bring him back but he knew a deal of that size had to be run by his boss. Kind of how "resource allocation" is GM speak for "cheap owner."