Greg Posted December 11, 2013 Share Posted December 11, 2013 <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>Os have considered extending JJ Hardy.</p>— Brittany Ghiroli (@Britt_Ghiroli) <a href=" ">December 11, 2013</a></blockquote><script async src="//platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 11, 2013 Share Posted December 11, 2013 Would love this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waroriole Posted December 11, 2013 Share Posted December 11, 2013 Not surprised. It saves them from having to do something creative. If he could be extended for around 3/30, I wouldn't be too upset. I wonder if they've considered shopping him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Babypowder Posted December 11, 2013 Share Posted December 11, 2013 I'd rather not extend a shortstop with a volatile skillset into his mid-thirties for a significant amount of money. Especially since we already have a young potential star at the position to replace him. They should be shopping him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aglets Posted December 11, 2013 Share Posted December 11, 2013 In a related story, I'm hearing that duquette is considering signing Choo if the price is $5M per season. The things that pass for news this time of year. I'm sure he's also considered trading hardy, letting him walk, and whether or not he sends him a Christmas card this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rene88 Posted December 11, 2013 Share Posted December 11, 2013 I am probably alone here but I would trade Hardy if the package is right. However, if the contract is reasonable you can still do that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrOrange82 Posted December 11, 2013 Share Posted December 11, 2013 I'd rather not extend a shortstop with a volatile skillset into his mid-thirties for a significant amount of money. Especially since we already have a young potential star at the position to replace him. They should be shopping him. And which young, potential star replaces the above-mentioned young, potential star at third base? Schoop has spent most of his time at 2B, and he's no wizard with a glove, regardless. Moreover, I don't see why some people seem eager to shift Machado to shortstop, anyway. If it ain't broke... I like the idea of keeping Hardy around for 2-3 more years. If it could be done for $10 million per year, I'd be fine with it. That said, I'd start backing off if the price got above $12 million, particularly since his inability to get on base drives me up walls during the season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sportsfan8703 Posted December 11, 2013 Share Posted December 11, 2013 <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>Os have considered extending JJ Hardy.</p>— Brittany Ghiroli (@Britt_Ghiroli) <a href=" ">December 11, 2013</a></blockquote><script async src="//platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script> What aren't we considering? Bringing Ryan Kohlmeier back to close? Seeing if Brady still has it in LF? Calling up Jose Mercedes to be the 5th stater? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Babypowder Posted December 11, 2013 Share Posted December 11, 2013 And which young, potential star replaces the above-mentioned young, potential star at third base? Schoop has spent most of his time at 2B, and he's no wizard with a glove, regardless. Moreover, I don't see why some people seem eager to shift Machado to shortstop, anyway. If it ain't broke... I like the idea of keeping Hardy around for 2-3 more years. If it could be done for $10 million per year, I'd be fine with it. That said, I'd start backing off if the price got above $12 million, particularly since his inability to get on base drives me up walls during the season. His skill-set already creates wild fluctuations in value year to year. I don't see that as a good sign if we are going to extend him until he's 35. The team isn't good enough keeping the current roster intact. If we don't have the payroll room to add free agents and we won't trade anyone while they still have value, how do we add talent to the organization? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrOrange82 Posted December 11, 2013 Share Posted December 11, 2013 His skill-set already creates wild fluctuations in value year to year. I don't see that as a good sign if we are going to extend him until he's 35. The team isn't good enough keeping the current roster intact. If we don't have the payroll room to add free agents and we won't trade anyone while they still have value, how do we add talent to the organization? Wild fluctuations? He's been worth 4.3, 2.6, and 3.4 fWAR since joining the Orioles. He's been consistently valuable, if anything. Besides, look at the FA market, and think about the question I asked above: who plays third if Hardy's gone and Machado's moved? FA's are only getting more expensive, and the O's don't have many potential, positional replacements in the minors. How much do you think a soon-to-be FA Hardy would garner in a trade? If he'd net a ready-for-the-majors infield prospect, then why wouldn't the team trading for Hardy simply run with the prospect? If Hardy wouldn't get you that kind of player, why are you trading him away? A handful of marbles? For what, FA relief pitchers? Hardy plays a difficult to fill position, he plays it well, and he might continue to play it for a reasonable price for the O's. I say keep him. I also say change for the sake of change isn't productive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RVAbird Posted December 11, 2013 Share Posted December 11, 2013 I'd just as soon trade him and shift Machado if there's sufficient interest, but if you can extend him again for a similar deal (3/30 or less) I'd be OK with it. Where else are you going to get 6-10 WAR over 3 seasons for under $30 MM in this market? Also, while Machado's bat would play better at SS, if he's a +15 defender at 3B and an average defender at SS, he's more valuable at 3B. Instincts, actions, hands, and arm are all strengths. Natural range is not. Many scouts predicted he'd settle in at 3B. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Can_of_corn Posted December 11, 2013 Share Posted December 11, 2013 Well it sure worked out great the last time they extended a middle infielder on the wrong side of 30... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Number5 Posted December 11, 2013 Share Posted December 11, 2013 What aren't we considering? Bringing Ryan Kohlmeier back to close? Seeing if Brady still has it in LF? Calling up Jose Mercedes to be the 5th stater? Hardy is 31 and coming into his walk year. He is certainly a good player and considering signing him to an extension makes a lot of sense. Why would you compare extending Hardy to these type of transactions? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrOrange82 Posted December 11, 2013 Share Posted December 11, 2013 Well it sure worked out great the last time they extended a middle infielder on the wrong side of 30... I'm pretty sure they're including a "bats are meant for balls" clause as standard language in new contracts. Also pretty sure the definitions section specifies that "balls" does not mean "face." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Can_of_corn Posted December 11, 2013 Share Posted December 11, 2013 I'm pretty sure they're including a "bats are meant for balls" clause as standard language in new contracts. Also pretty sure the definitions section specifies that "balls" does not mean "face." Roberts also missed significant time with Back and Leg injuries. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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