Jump to content

Does Curt Schilling Deserve to be in the HOF


Redskins Rick

Recommended Posts

http://espn.go.com/mlb/story/_/id/10259259/greg-maddux-unanimous-hall-selection?fb_comment_id=fbc_240407906137622_657513_240447032800376#f3b077f3ac

Ken Gurnick of MLB.com says he's not voting for anyone from the steroid era because he's not sure of the players used steroids or not. So no vote for Maddux' date=' none for F. Thomas, Glavine, or Mussina or anyone from the steroid era. Oh but I will vote for Jack Morris....

It would interest him to know that players were doing steroids during the time Jack Morris pitched and Morris is nowhere near as good as Maddux.

Please just restructure the voting, the system needs to be changed.[/quote']

Yeah. It's a ridiculous stance to take. If he's really is going to take a stance, he should not vote for Morris either.

I'm pretty sure that steroids were pretty rampant when he played as well.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

  • Replies 69
  • Created
  • Last Reply
http://espn.go.com/mlb/story/_/id/10259259/greg-maddux-unanimous-hall-selection?fb_comment_id=fbc_240407906137622_657513_240447032800376#f3b077f3ac

Ken Gurnick of MLB.com says he's not voting for anyone from the steroid era because he's not sure of the players used steroids or not. So no vote for Maddux' date=' none for F. Thomas, Glavine, or Mussina or anyone from the steroid era. Oh but I will vote for Jack Morris....

It would interest him to know that players were doing steroids during the time Jack Morris pitched and Morris is nowhere near as good as Maddux.

Please just restructure the voting, the system needs to be changed.[/quote']

Pathetic drama queen. "Look at me!"

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Classy Response:

<iframe id="twitter-widget-0" scrolling="no" frameborder="0" allowtransparency="true" class="twitter-tweet twitter-tweet-rendered" style="display: block; max-width: 99%; min-width: 220px; padding: 0px; border-top-left-radius: 5px; border-top-right-radius: 5px; border-bottom-right-radius: 5px; border-bottom-left-radius: 5px; margin: 10px 0px; border-color: rgb(238, 238, 238) rgb(221, 221, 221) rgb(187, 187, 187); border-width: 1px; border-style: solid; box-shadow: rgba(0, 0, 0, 0.14902) 0px 1px 3px; position: static; visibility: visible;" title="Embedded Tweet" width="500" height="207"></iframe>

<script async="" src="//platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script><iframe id="rufous-sandbox" scrolling="no" frameborder="0" allowtransparency="true" style="display: none;"></iframe>

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Classy Response:

<iframe id="twitter-widget-0" scrolling="no" frameborder="0" allowtransparency="true" class="twitter-tweet twitter-tweet-rendered" style="display: block; max-width: 99%; min-width: 220px; padding: 0px; border-top-left-radius: 5px; border-top-right-radius: 5px; border-bottom-right-radius: 5px; border-bottom-left-radius: 5px; margin: 10px 0px; border-color: rgb(238, 238, 238) rgb(221, 221, 221) rgb(187, 187, 187); border-width: 1px; border-style: solid; box-shadow: rgba(0, 0, 0, 0.14902) 0px 1px 3px; position: static; visibility: visible;" title="Embedded Tweet" width="500" height="207"></iframe>

<script async="" src="//platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script><iframe id="rufous-sandbox" scrolling="no" frameborder="0" allowtransparency="true" style="display: none;"></iframe>

That just shows up as a blank Hangout background colored box to me.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Schilling got 38.8% of the vote in 2013. He went down to 29.2% this year because of a crowded ballot. I wouldn't be too concerned. Here's why...

Since voting started in 1936 only eight players (Morris 67.7%, Hodges 63.4%, Oliva 47.3%, Maris 43.1%, Garvey 42.6%, Wills 40.6%, Marion 40.0%, and Kuenn 39.3%, have recieved a vote total more than Schilling's 38.8% vote from the BBWA and not gotten in eventually - either within the 15 years of eligibility or by the Veteran's Committee vote. I'd say he's got a decent chance to get in down the road.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Schilling got 38.8% of the vote in 2013. He went down to 29.2% this year because of a crowded ballot. I wouldn't be too concerned. Here's why...

Since voting started in 1936 only eight players (Morris 67.7%, Hodges 63.4%, Oliva 47.3%, Maris 43.1%, Garvey 42.6%, Wills 40.6%, Marion 40.0%, and Kuenn 39.3%, have recieved a vote total more than Schilling's 38.8% vote from the BBWA and not gotten in eventually - either within the 15 years of eligibility or by the Veteran's Committee vote. I'd say he's got a decent chance to get in down the road.

The other side of the coin would be Luis Tiant. He started off strong and went down as more and more highly qualified pitchers entered the ballot.

It isn't good to be the fourth best pitcher on the ballot.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

The other side of the coin would be Luis Tiant. He started off strong and went down as more and more highly qualified pitchers entered the ballot.

It isn't good to be the fourth best pitcher on the ballot.

Yep, Tiant peaked his very first year at 30.9%. A few others like Mattingly (28.2% in 2001) have done that as well but the vast majority of players see their vote totals go up after the first year. I think Schilling has a decent chance to make it down the road.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Not sure what happened.

3b4db1afa2f14c2e8b4cefa41c097094_normal.jpegCurt Schilling@gehrig38<small class="time" style="font-size: 12px; color: rgb(187, 187, 187); position: relative; float: right; margin-top: 1px;">56m</small>

Huge congrats to the three ABSOLUTELY deserving new members of the hall. Played against them all, never a doubt they were HOF'ers.

Is classy! And not just to appear classy, because all those guys beat his brains in, as good as Curt was.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

  • 1 month later...

Archived

This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies.


  • Posts

    • Aram loves the pitch metrics on Povich and McDermott. Was effusive in his spring podcast going through Os top prospects. 
    • Let’s also give the org credit for the O’Hearn pickup.  He was part of last night’s lineup.  For that matter, they picked up Mateo too.  
    • Thank you.  Not sure how easy for someone who may have been doing it for years and someone who’s been talented enough to make it work.   Someone posted a video of Freddie Freeman and Holliday to show similarities but, to me, it just showed how different their lead foot was.  Freeman’s was closed and perfectly in line and parallel to his back foot.  Hollidays foot pointed out and the foot towards 2B position.  I questioned it.  Other guys, who admittedly know more, said it was no problem.  Again, he might be able to become a HOF with those mechanics.  I’ve just never seen a good ML hitter hit that way. From that early January thread “I guess it depends on your definition of “step in the bucket”.  His stride foot definitely doesn’t go straight.  Pretty easy to see where his foot is in relation to the batters box and how much further away it is when it lands.  It doesn’t seem to affect him negatively though.  Interestingly enough, Freeman’s stride foot goes perfectly straight.” Edited January 6 by RZNJ
    • He allowed only one batted ball over 95 MPH, commanding his cutter particularly well in this one. I think the cutter is the most critical pitch for Povich to take the next step. He’s never had issues getting punch outs, he needs to be able to pitch in the zone without relying too much on his fastball. It’s also a key weapon against RHP - if you don’t have a true plus breaking ball or fastball that can overcome the platoon splits (which I don’t think Povich does), you can only make it as a LHP SP through the strength of your cutter and changeup, which are more reverse/neutral splits.  His changeup is probably not good enough to carry him on its own, so it’s the cutter that brings the whole pitch mix together.  
    • Agree he steps in the bucket. In theory should be a relatively easy fix. 
    • His back or shoulder might give out first. Hardly any talented pitcher retires without some sort of serious injury recorded.
  • Popular Contributors

×
×
  • Create New...