Cast your 2014 Hall of Fame Ballot (Update: Maddux, Glavine, Thomas Elected)

[Number5]

Biggio has the magic number. Trammell doesn't.

I guess that is it. I tend not to set certain magic numbers for counting stats as being make-or-break in comparing players, but I may be in the minority on that. Hard for me to weigh number of hits ultra-heavily since the number one guy is on the outside looking in.

[PeteU]

Disclosure: I didn't vote. Mussina seemed to stay out of the limelight. My guess is that most baseball fans outside of New York and Baltimore remember him as a very good pitcher, but would be surprised to learn of his accomplishments. It is the Hall of Fame, not the Hall of Great Stats or the Hall of Modesty.

I wonder how much he'll even get remembered in New York. He never played on a championship team. Never won a Cy Young. His only 20 win season came in a year where the Yanks missed the playoffs, so it's essentially meaningless. And he more or less gets lost in the shuffle behind the Jeters, ARods, Pettites, Clemens, Johnsons, etc. who played along side him during his tenure there.

Really, the only place where he was a household name was Baltimore. And he's destined to be remembered as either the guy who a) got criminally lowballed by Angelos, or b) shat in the collective faces of Orioles fans everywhere.

[russ snyder]

I guess that is it. I tend not to set certain magic numbers for counting stats as being make-or-break in comparing players, but I may be in the minority on that. Hard for me to weigh number of hits ultra-heavily since the number one guy is on the outside looking in.

Well, he is on the outside looking in for a reason.

He is banned from baseball.

[ShaneDawg85]

Mussina got a whooping 20.3%.

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I'm sorry, objectively or subjectively, you cannot say Mike Mussina was a first ballot HOFer. He'll probably get in eventually, but no way did he deserve to get in on his first try.

On his own merits I firmly believe he's a first ballot Hall of Famer. But even I knew he wasn't getting in on the first ballot this year with the list of other first timers and the mess that the voters refuse to address behind them.

[Number5]

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Well, he is on the outside looking in for a reason.

He is banned from baseball.

Really?

[Redskins Rick]

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Well, he is on the outside looking in for a reason.

He is banned from baseball.

And for good reason.

When one makes decisions in life, one has to be prepared for both good and bad consequences from each decision.

[ShaneDawg85]

On to my original post, I want to know the names of the 16 writers who didn't vote Maddux in. The world needs to know their names, and they need to know that they are incompetent, grandstanding maroons.

[Number5]

I wonder how much he'll even get remembered in New York. He never played on a championship team. Never won a Cy Young. His only 20 win season came in a year where the Yanks missed the playoffs, so it's essentially meaningless. And he more or less gets lost in the shuffle behind the Jeters, ARods, Pettites, Clemens, Johnsons, etc. who played along side him during his tenure there.

Really, the only place where he was a household name was Baltimore. And he's destined to be remembered as either the guy who a) got criminally lowballed by Angelos, or b) shat in the collective faces of Orioles fans everywhere.

And c) Cito sucks.

[russ snyder]

And for good reason.

When one makes decisions in life, one has to be prepared for both good and bad consequences from each decision.

I agree,

[russ snyder]

And c) Cito sucks.

He might, but perhaps Mussina should have taken the high road and not warmed up in the bullpen on his own.

[Number5]

He might, but perhaps Mussina should have taken the high road and not warmed up in the bullpen on his own.

Nonetheless, it is remembered.

[Redskins Rick]

He might, but perhaps Mussina should have taken the high road and not warmed up in the bullpen on his own.

Probably everybody but Birdland Fans and Cito remember the incident.

[Number5]

He might, but perhaps Mussina should have taken the high road and not warmed up in the bullpen on his own.

Besides, to not play the home team guy in the All-Star game is unforgivable for a manager. It just is. It is an exhibition for the fans, for crying out loud. Cito sucks.

[russ snyder]

Nonetheless, it is remembered.

It is, and it spurred a lot of tee shirt sales.

[Il BuonO]

You could site character issues, after all you didn't put that Cobb fellow in.

From Olney's piece.

"The Hall of Fame is not a house of the holy. It's a baseball museum -- the best sports museum in the world, in my opinion -- and nobody should pretend it's more than that. That includes the current Hall of Famers, some of whom admittedly used amphetamines in their careers because that was the context of the times."

http://insider.espn.go.com/blog/buster-olney/post?id=4360