The Comp draft pick is hurting free agency.

[srock]

You can go play in Egypt or India or Korea or Japan. Or even Norway. If your skills are enough to create a market in and of themselves. Without the trappings that MLB brings to the part.

You can take your Skilz to the Israeli professional league.

You can play for the Grossetta Orioles in Italy. Its unclear what that job pays. There is a decent chance I could have made that team out of high school.

[weams]

Freedom always sounds good. Always sounds better than other alternatives.

If the owners can't figure out ways to keep getting richer while granting players true free agency, they are a sorry lot indeed.

Then change the anti trust and go back to the rival league concept which has been tried, The freedom was sacrificed for order. We can go back to that. All we have to do is vote for it. We have that freedom.

[Can_of_corn]

Freedom always sounds good. Always sounds better than other alternatives.

If the owners can't figure out ways to keep getting richer while granting players true free agency, they are a sorry lot indeed.

But they want to be more richer.

[Can_of_corn]

Then change the anti trust and go back to the rival league concept which has been tried, The freedom was sacrificed for order. We can go back to that. All we have to do is vote for it. We have that freedom.

I for one miss the work stoppages.

[weams]

You can play for the Grossetta Orioles in Italy. Its unclear what that job pays. There is a decent chance I could have made that team out of high school.

It doesn't matter what it pays. It is a freedom of choice issue. A player can do it.

[weams]

I for one miss the work stoppages.

Oh, yeah, I always LOVED that. If not for Cal, the game would be like the WNBA in America.

[weams]

But they want to be more richer.

We can always pass a law that they are obligated to give every penny over their team payroll plus expenses be distributed to the masses. From each according to his ability.

[mdbdotcom]

Then change the anti trust and go back to the rival league concept which has been tried, The freedom was sacrificed for order. We can go back to that. All we have to do is vote for it. We have that freedom.

What does the rival league concept have to do with the anti-trust or free agency? When Fred Lynn and Carlton Fisk became free agents because the Red Sox sent their contracts late, there was no compensation. When Dave McNally and Andy Messersmith sued in the courts to end the reserve system and establish free agency, there was no compensation. Compensation has been negotiated into free agency. For whatever reason that was done, it is wrong. Nothing else needs to be changed to eliminate compensation. Just get rid of it.

[Can_of_corn]

Oh, yeah, I always LOVED that. If not for Cal, the game would be like the WNBA in America.

I think the NHL is a bit more accurate a comparison.

You know every few years the owners lock the players out and carve out another pound of flesh.

[weams]

I think the NHL is a bit more accurate a comparison.

You know every few years the owners lock the players out and carve out another pound of flesh.

Hockey is more popular than baseball would be.

[Can_of_corn]

What does the rival league concept have to do with the anti-trust or free agency? When Fred Lynn and Carlton Fisk became free agents because the Red Sox sent their contracts late, there was no compensation. When Dave McNally and Andy Messersmith sued in the courts to end the reserve system and establish free agency, there was no compensation. Compensation has been negotiated into free agency. For whatever reason that was done, it is wrong. Nothing else needs to be changed to eliminate compensation. Just get rid of it.

Ohh I have an idea.

We could just have the players' union bargain away rights that they don't have any domain over....again.

That works, the players get total free agency and some kids that are not in the majors get shafted some more!

[weams]

Ohh I have an idea.

We could just have the players' union bargain away rights that they don't have any domain over....again.

That works, the players get total free agency and some kids that are not in the majors get shafted some more!

You know they would. Or like the NFL. Bargain away pension benefits for more front loaded guarantees. So that the brain injured have to litigate! You know, after the money was all spent.

[Can_of_corn]

You know they would. Or like the NFL. Bargain away pension benefits for more front loaded guarantees. So that the brain injured have to litigate!

They already have. They bargained away the rights of draftees to put into place the current slotting system. Considering that none of those kids are Union members I am unsure how they had the power to do it.

I asked Guts about it on Twitter, we had a nice talk but he wouldn't go into detail.

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I don't get this thread at all. The number of players that will cost a pick has gone way down. Also, the teams are now required to offer 14 million one year contract to get a pick and no pick is allotted to anyone if the player is traded in the year before free agency. So all of this is helping free agency not hurting it.

Maybe since players were offered 14 million they are expecting that in free agency. And I am sure next year the amount will be higher. If players start accepting these one year contracts who don't provide 14 million in value the teams will stop offering them. 14 million for mediocre players is awesome all of them that are mediocre should take the offer. I guess the problem with mediocre older players is that they know their value is only going to go down. So if they take 14 million this year they might have to settle for 4 million the next year. They would rather have a 4 year 40 million dollar contract than a 1 year 14 million contact.

[weams]

So if they take 14 million this year they might have to settle for 4 million the next year. They would rather have a 4 year 40 million dollar contract than a 1 year 14 million contact.

And intelligent teams are not signing those types of players in the first place. I honestly thought that Seattle offering the QO to Morales was completely whacked. Shows you what I know. The idea that a steroid abuser would turn down a one year 14.1 to improve his position for a long term deal, after the Melky Cabrerra line (2 yrs/$16M) has been determined, blew my mind as well.