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How does this even if true show incompetence? If anything it shows the opposite.

It shows incompetence because we reached agreement with TWO players this offseason (after having looked at medical records) and then had the deal "fall apart" because of this physical. Tell me another team that this has happened to twice.

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Flosman Major Leaguer

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It shows incompetence because we reached agreement with TWO players this offseason (after having looked at medical records) and then had the deal "fall apart" because of this physical. Tell me another team that this has happened to twice.

You know that they looked at detailed medical records? I will let you know they only saw what the players agent allowed them to see. It is not like a trade. These guys were FA not the property of another team where the other team has to vouch for the players condition. They probably saw something regarding health but that could be as simple as a representation that the player was fit to play MLB.

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You know that they looked at detailed medical records? I will let you know they only saw what the players agent allowed them to see. It is not like a trade. These guys were FA not the property of another team where the other team has to vouch for the players condition. They probably saw something regarding health but that could be as simple as a representation that the player was fit to play MLB.
And DD is wiling to go with that? He is looking at a player who had back issues last season, and the agent won't show him the medicals. Why does he even bother to continue negotiations? I think the point is either he is naive or desperate, for this to happen twice in one off season.
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All you guys have convinced me. PA does not care about winning. He won't sign hurt players :rolleyestf:.

Either our scouting is flawed, or dumpster diving is biting us in the butt, and giving us a bad reputation. I'll go with the latter.

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And DD is wiling to go with that? He is looking at a player who had back issues last season, and the agent won't show him the medicals. Why does he even bother to continue negotiations? I think the point is either he is naive or desperate, for this to happen twice in one off season.

I believe Dan does not see this as any kind of failure. Just the process.

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You seemed to agree with a post that suggested a Balfour deal has yet to be executed because of a failed physical. If so, why was the Orioles failed physical made public but not the others.

I think the failed physical I agreed with was the Orioles one. No one else has bothered to my knowledge. Inside baseball, I assume that Balfour is not viewed as completely healthy.

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You know that they looked at detailed medical records? I will let you know they only saw what the players agent allowed them to see. It is not like a trade. These guys were FA not the property of another team where the other team has to vouch for the players condition. They probably saw something regarding health but that could be as simple as a representation that the player was fit to play MLB.

Players have to certify that they are providing a complete medical history. The process is spelled out on page 58 of the CBA.

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And DD is wiling to go with that? He is looking at a player who had back issues last season, and the agent won't show him the medicals. Why does he even bother to continue negotiations? I think the point is either he is naive or desperate, for this to happen twice in one off season.

Why wouldn't he be willing to go with that? That's the entire point of the signing being contingent on a physical. So the O's can back out if they see something they don't like.

It sounds like what's happening is exactly what you would want.

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I think the failed physical I agreed with was the Orioles one. No one else has bothered to my knowledge. Inside baseball, I assume that Balfour is not viewed as completely healthy.
I think baseball people know he is healthy enough, but they are happy the O's gave them some leverage to negotiate a lesser contract. Still I wouldn't be surprised if the MFY give him 2 years.
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