Jump to content

Boras & Wieters v. Smouse?

TonySoprano

By TonySoprano
in Orioles Talk

Recommended Posts

GoldGlove21 All-Star

GoldGlove21

Posted
Posted
Trade him with three full years of team control left coming off a playoff appearance?

Bit early for me.

I would be open to trading him but don't want a replacement or worse Catcher back there for 162 games.

The longer we hold him the lower his value gets. We could always bank on him having a breakout year, but that would make it harder to get what we think he is worth from a team that knows it will not be able to extend him without breaking the bank. Wieters being relatively cheap likely increases the number of teams who would be interested in him.

Link to comment
Share on other sites
  • Replies 128
  • Created
  • Last Reply
GoldGlove21 All-Star

GoldGlove21

Posted
Posted
249 BABIP is unlucky but Matt has only been over 300 one season. Sometimes it isn't just bad luck. I think his 283 career number is about all you can reasonably expect from him.

Right and I get the feeling that .283 would be a very good year for him. I understand unlucky and I know he has some real value. I just feel that we are going to hold onto him too long and let him walk for picks.

Link to comment
Share on other sites
Can_of_corn Hangout Grand Counsel

Can_of_corn

Posted
Posted
The longer we hold him the lower his value gets. We could always bank on him having a breakout year, but that would make it harder to get what we think he is worth from a team that knows it will not be able to extend him without breaking the bank. Wieters being relatively cheap likely increases the number of teams who would be interested in him.

Like I said I would be open to trading him this offseason if there was an adequate replacement. I just think that last offseason, coming off a playoff appearance, was early.

Link to comment
Share on other sites
weams Hangout Grand Counsel

weams

Posted
Posted
Maybe DD pissed off Boras when the agent told him that Wieters hit into more line drive outs than anyone last year, and DD responded by suggesting he tell that to an arbitrator.

Maybe he should have coddled up to Scott so that we could over-pay hugely for both of his clients on ten year deals. Remember. Boras said "Mauer Money" long before Dan mentioned the truth about the arbitration process.

Link to comment
Share on other sites
weams Hangout Grand Counsel

weams

Posted
Posted
Right and I get the feeling that .283 would be a very good year for him. I understand unlucky and I know he has some real value. I just feel that we are going to hold onto him too long and let him walk for picks.

Two years of value and a pick would be fine with me.

Link to comment
Share on other sites
mdbdotcom Hangout Grand Counsel

mdbdotcom

Posted
Posted
Maybe he should have coddled up to Scott so that we could over-pay hugely for both of his clients on ten year deals. Remember. Boras said "Mauer Money" long before Dan mentioned the truth about the arbitration process.

I didn't say there was anything wrong with what he said. I don't understand your reaction.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Archived

This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies.

Go to topic listing

  • Posts

    • RVAOsFan
      John Means 2024

      By RVAOsFan · Posted

      Come on man, why you gotta rub his nose in it like a puppy who peed on the carpet?  You tried to give away Kremer this offseason for a bag of balls and now we are on our 8th starter, no one is coming after you for it. 
    • Conway12
      Sarris @The Athletic: Burnes #1, G-Rod #6

      By Conway12 · Posted

      https://www.thebaltimorebanner.com/sports/orioles-mlb/orioles-grayson-rodriguez-new-slider-JLYL3ORB4RFWROMRETPVIUVFRQ/ He's got a "new" slider that Statcast calls a cutter. Andy Kostka had a good article on the subject. 
    • tntoriole
      Jackson Holliday 2024

      By tntoriole · Posted

      Who needs modern analytics, swing analysis, mechanics coaches ?  “Just hitch up your pants a bit more “… Leo Durocher 
    • Moose Milligan
      Royals Series 4/19-4/21

      By Moose Milligan · Posted

      I called them the Fighting Bob Hamelins, and I always think about Bob Hamelin for some reason when we play the Royals. You probably won't be interested to know that Hamelin won the 1994 AL ROY award during the strike shortened season.  He then went on to have a pretty unremarkable career. But then I wondered what notables he beat for that award and the biggest one was Manny Ramirez.  Jeffrey Hammonds got 3% of the vote, Jim Edmonds got 1%.   It's also a vote that the writers got correct, since everything is a WAR race these days @FrobbyHamelin put up 2.6, which was slightly beat Jose Valentin of the Brewers at 2.5.   I hope that Holliday can surpass the mighty Bob Hamelin before the season is over.
    • Bemorewins
      John Means 2024

      By Bemorewins · Posted

      It was unwise because he didn’t help us for the playoffs due to his unavailability. We could have acquired a better starting pitcher instead of waiting for him. Flaherty was so bad he didn’t even pitch in the Texas series. @wildcard mentioned 2019, that was what I was responding to. 2019 is 5 years ago according to the calendar that I have which says that it is the year 2024. Maybe you misread other exchange between he and I? But there’s no pilling on here.
    • dystopia
      Some 9x stats

      By dystopia · Posted

      Whoever said that was probably mistaken. No way is Westburg still a rookie. 
    • tntoriole
      Jackson Holliday 2024

      By tntoriole · Posted

      You are exactly right about Mays .. my point was that even HOF players often struggle early.   And Willie was kept even defensively by Leo as the best CF ever..    From SABR  https://sabr.org/bioproj/person/willie-mays/         Manager Tommy Heath informed Mays that he had been called up to the Giants. Mays’ response: “Tell Leo I’m not coming.”24Heath called, and Durocher laid into Mays on the phone. Mays told him that he didn’t feel that he could hit big-league pitching. Durocher, speechless for perhaps the first time in his life, finally broke his silence and asked Mays what he was hitting. Mays answered, “.477.” (He had a current 16-game hitting streak and a .799 slugging percentage, and was on a pace to score more than 150 runs and drive in 120.) Durocher asked, very quietly but with some scatological punctuation, “Do you think you can hit .250 for me?” Mays responded in the affirmative.25 He was on the next plane to meet the team in Philadelphia. Stoneham bought an ad in the Minneapolis Tribune to assuage the local fans’ outrage at losing their young star. The Giants were 17-19, in fifth place, on May 25, the day Mays joined the team at Shibe Park. Durocher immediately installed the 20-year-old in center field. The Giants won all three of the games in Philadelphia, though Mays was hitless in his first 12 at-bats. Despite his batting woes, when the team returned to the Polo Grounds, Mays’ first home game saw him batting third against the Boston Braves and their star southpaw Warren Spahn. In his first at-bat, he hit Spahn’s offering atop the left-field roof for a home run, his first major-league hit. After the homer, Mays went on a 0-for-13 slide, leaving him hitting .038 (1-for-26). At this point, in an often-told story, Mays sat in front of his locker, crying, after taking the collar again. Coaches Freddie Fitzsimmons and Herman Franks sent for Durocher. Mays again said he couldn’t hit big-league pitching. Durocher replied, “As long as I’m the manager of the Giants, you are my center fielder. … You are the best center fielder I’ve ever looked at.”26 Then he told Mays to hitch up his pants more to give himself a more favorable strike zone; he proceeded to go on a 14-for-33 tear.

  • Popular Contributors

  • Popular Now

×
×
  • Create New...