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Dannyboy Major Leaguer Cup of Coffee

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I think even if that worked it would only benefit in the st. I'm guessing every other team would refuse to ever deal with the os again were they to do that.

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Why? Because the O's thought out of the box and they didn't? It would open the door for other teams to do the same thing.

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And then there's the union. No way they let that happen.

Why not? Like I said, the contract could be negotiated so that the player would get his money. Everyone is happy, the O's get their pitcher and keep the pick, the player gets his money, the agent get his cut and the players union gets a new member and more union dues. Only one that wouldn't be happy is Bud Selig, and as far as I'm concerned, he can pound sand.

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Why? Because the O's thought out of the box and they didn't? It would open the door for other teams to do the same thing.

Well I can't find the MLB source for the actual rule, but this appears to be an excerpt.

It would appear that signing a player to a minor league deal in order to avoid giving up the draft pick is explicitly forbidden.

If a Qualified Player signs a Major League contract with a new club after the MLB Rule 4 Draft, or if a Qualified Player signs a minor league contract with a new club and either remains in the minor leagues or is later added to the new club's MLB 40-man roster, the player's new club does NOT forfeit a Rule 4 Draft pick, and the player's former club does NOT receive Rule 4 Draft pick compensation. However, MLB clubs are not permitted to sign a Qualified Player to a minor league contract just to avoid losing a draft pick.

http://www.thecubreporter.com/book/export/html/3512

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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>BREAKING: Ryan Dempster will not pitch for <a href="https://twitter.com/search?q=%23RedSox&src=hash">#RedSox</a> in 2014 due to physical reasons and his desire to spend more time with his kids.</p>— Ken Rosenthal (@Ken_Rosenthal) <a href="

">February 16, 2014</a></blockquote>

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Don't be surprised if the Yankees' efforts to land Ervin Santana intensify in the coming weeks. Even after landing Masahiro Tanaka, the Bombers could use one more solid starter to round out their starting five.

http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2014/02/cafardo-on-cabrera-dodgers-santana-hardy.html?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter

The O's go from landing a starting pitcher like Ervin possibly, to having the Yankees grab him and use him against the O's.

Would not sit well...

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Bump...interesting topic to revisit.     These two were considered pretty equivalent as of the 2013-14 offseason and both were late signs that winter.   Ubaldo signed for 4/$50 mm and has gone 27-33 with a 4.93 ERA.   Santana signed a one-year deal for $14.1 mm, then got a 4/$55 mm deal.   He's gone 34-28 with a 3.56 ERA and missed half of 2016 with a PED suspension.

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