Walks Are Not as Good as Hits

[Hank Scorpio]

We can't discuss outs. It's hits against walks. Take a stand Hank.

Well, they're not really mutually exclusive things, right?

Aw, hell. I'll take walks b/c that's a demonstration of ability to recognize what you can and can't do.

[El Gordo]

And the fact that hitting a little white ball that dives and curvers thrown anywhere in the range of 75-95 mph typically is usually a failing endeavour... even for the best of the best.

The name of the game is to not get out. Good things happen (more often than not) to teams that make less outs per plate appearance than the team they are playing.

Right. Buck should make this compulsory reading for every hitter: http://www.amazon.com/The-Kid-Who-Batted-000/dp/B0007DWCHE

[Babypowder]

The Red Sox weren't first in batting average in MLB last year, but they were first in runs scored by a lot. I wonder what they were doing so well?

[OFFNY]

Watching Mayberry the other night.

Andy was trying to brag about a high school no hitter he pitched. Guber spilled the beans that they lost. Gee Dad, how could you lose and still pitched a no-hitter. Guber said, because he walked 17.

Oo

[CA-ORIOLE]

Well, they're not really mutually exclusive things, right?

Aw, hell. I'll take walks b/c that's a demonstration of ability to recognize what you can and can't do.

Wrong. Hits are better than walks Hank. Discussing outs and other factors is off limits.

[Redskins Rick]

Oo

John Mayberry, I remember him, and I knew who it was, without looking it up too.

[Frobby]

Right. Buck should make this compulsory reading for every hitter: http://www.amazon.com/The-Kid-Who-Batted-000/dp/B0007DWCHE

I read that back in elementary school maybe 47 years ago. I don't remember the name of the kid who walked all the time, but the cleanup hitter was named Bomber Scoggins. Just goes to show ya, it's the home run hitters who get remembered!

[OFFNY]

Oo

John Mayberry, I remember him, and I knew who it was, without looking it up too.

I believe that the 1977 Royals were one of the best teams ever not to win a pennant or a World Series.

Back on track.

Walks as good as hits ???

[kalcashmoney]

Hits are always better than walks:

Runner on first - WALK will only advance the runner to 2nd. A HIT can move them to 3rd or even drive them home.

Runner on second/third - WALK will do nothing. A HIT will likely drive in a run.

Walks are awesome, but HITS are more superior.

However, I do love players that can work a walk, which proves they only hit hitters pitches.

[CA-ORIOLE]

I read that back in elementary school maybe 47 years ago. I don't remember the name of the kid who walked all the time, but the cleanup hitter was named Bomber Scoggins. Just goes to show ya, it's the home run hitters who get remembered!

Damn Frobby, you even had a cool childhood...... Bomber Scoggins. How cool is that. The guy I remember from elementary school is "Booger"Bartalotta. For some reason nobody ever wanted to let him use their bat.

[Larry18]

I'd rather go for a walk than get hit by a car. Context is important

[El Gordo]

I read that back in elementary school maybe 47 years ago. I don't remember the name of the kid who walked all the time, but the cleanup hitter was named Bomber Scoggins. Just goes to show ya, it's the home run hitters who get remembered!

That book was way ahead of it's time 43 years before Moneyball. BTW Bob Allison could take his walks. .358 career OBP.

[btdart20]

Wrong. Hits are better than walks Hank. Discussing outs and other factors is off limits.

The OP, gpolee, is concerned with the overvaluation of OBP and the devaluation of AVG. Hits are better than walks. But OBP is better the AVG.

[El Gordo]

Retire the Crow, replace him with Abreu. Long live OBP!

[Redskins Rick]

Ted Williams, managed to do it all, walk, get hits, high .OBP and .OPS.