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gpolee Major Leaguer Cup of Coffee

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I can't believe I am the only person who thinks the trade was a step backward for the franchise. There must be others and I'm sure we would both love to hear from them, if they are reading this.

The only player I can think of harboring a "deep resentment" against would be Pete Rose. And even he doesn't rouse emotion. Reggie doesn't stir my drink a bit.

Actually, I sorta like Reggie because he played ball here in town with Johnnie's.

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I can't believe I am the only person who thinks the trade was a step backward for the franchise. There must be others and I'm sure we would both love to hear from them, if they are reading this.

The only player I can think of harboring a "deep resentment" against would be Pete Rose. And even he doesn't rouse emotion. Reggie doesn't stir my drink a bit.

It's fine that Jackson doesn't stir your drink. There are/were a lot of Oriole fans that did not like him when he played for us, and especially after he left us to sign with the Yankees.

However, considering that the 1977 Orioles did as well as they did, and especially how well they continued to do from 1978-1983 (and the players that we subsequently acquired in 1977 and 1978 that contributed greatly to the teams' success through the mid 80's), I don't see much of an argument that the Baylor-for-Jackson trade specifically set the franchise back. The 1975 team took a slight step backwards from the 1969-1974 teams, the 1976 team took another slight step backwards from the 1975 team, and the 1977 accelerated greatly (97-64 with 1 rainout, and only missed the postseason because the Yankees went 100-62.) Eddie Murray, Scott McGregor, Mike Flanagan, Tippy and Denny Martinez, Gary Roenicke, Doug DeCinces (some players acquired as a by-product of the Jackson trade, some not) all young players, and all contributed to an Oriole power rebirth from 1977-1983 after a brief absence in 1975 and 1976.

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It's fine that Jackson doesn't stir your drink. There are/were a lot of Oriole fans that did not like him when he played for us, and especially after he left us to sign with the Yankees.

However, considering that the 1977 Orioles did as well as they did, and especially how well they continued to do from 1978-1983 (and the players that we subsequently acquired in 1977 and 1978 that contributed greatly to the teams' success through the mid 80's), I don't see much of an argument that the Baylor-for-Jackson trade specifically set the franchise back. The 1975 team took a slight step backwards from the 1969-1974 teams, the 1976 team took another slight step backwards from the 1975 team, and the 1977 accelerated greatly (97-64 with 1 rainout, and only missed the postseason because the Yankees went 100-62.) Eddie Murray, Scott McGregor, Mike Flanagan, Tippy and Denny Martinez, Gary Roenicke, Doug DeCinces (some players acquired as a by-product of the Jackson trade, some not) all young players, and all contributed to an Oriole power rebirth from 1977-1983 after a brief absence in 1975 and 1976.

OK. I'm fine with your assessment.

I give a lot of love to Jim Palmer for making those mid 70s teams so competitive...

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Is absolutely what I meant! If not well conveyed. Great contract that just went MFing south. :noidea: Ish happens.

The Belle bad luck really might be the entire reason for the suckiness of 14 losing seasons. It made us gun shy on Moose. Then gave bad contracts to average players just to not lose 100 games. Even if we don't make the playoffs this year we really need Jimenez and Cruz to light it up so at least PA may be more inclined to spend next offseason.

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