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For which position do you believe defensive metrics are most reliable?

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I think it's pretty well established that defensive metrics for catchers are fairly iffy at this point, or at least are the least polished of the metrics for position players. My question to you all is this: for which of the 7 other fielder positions are defensive metrics the MOST reliable for the sake of comparing fielders among their peers? If you like, you can post a full set of rankings.

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